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    I am setting up my first 125 gal aquarium and decided to add a couple Angelfish. This is the first time I have ever owned Angelfish. They are silver looking with vertical bands. The bands are a real faint grey sometimes and then turn very dark sometimes. This afternoon I had to replant one of my plants near where the Angelfish were located. When my hand came close to the fish, their vertical bands turned really dark. Is this normal? I didn't know Angelfish changed colors?
    Another question. What can I feed these fish. They have only been in the aquarium for a few days, but I'm having a hard time getting them to feed. Day one, they ate some goldfish pellets. Since then I have tried frozen blood worms (thawed), frozen brine shrimp (thawed), and tropical flakes. They don't seem interested in eating. Outside of that, they seem to be normal. They swim around and act like normal fish. Any suggestions? Could it be the fish are still acclimating to their new environment?
    Last question. I have four Eclipse catfish. One of the catfish follows the Angelfish very closely. It's not biting at the Angelfish, but nudging them. Is this normal?
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    Wow. I didn't know that. Learn something new everyday. Thanks for the reply.

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    Just wait about 5 days to a week to start feeding them. They could be stressed. Fish also can get 'backed up' (constipated) from the fish store and travel. Once they are more comfortable in your tank, they'll usually release it. Just give them some time.

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    The bars change colour dependant on their mood. Usually a happy angel feeling secure will have black bars, and the bars fade if the angelfish is stressed for some reason. Will they still eat goldfish pellets, or nothing at all? If they are not eating now, try lowering the light level. I'm not familiar with that catfish, it is possible it's stressing them a bit, but as long as the catfish isn't hurting them, they should get used to it and eventually nudge him back. Angels are pretty resilient, provided the water is right for them and the tank size is adaquate and is not a new tank.

    Everytime I ever got angels from the LFS, I've had to train them to eat pellets. Goldfish pellets are ok, but not what you want them to eat long term. Your angels are most likely not accustomed at all to frozen foods. Usually, after I offer a new food a couple of times, they'll mouth it, spit it out, taste it, and if they decide it's yummy, will start eating the rest enthusiastically. Still, some individual angels will go crazy for a specific food, while others will seem disinterested completely. That's why it's important to vary the food. If your angels are already eating goldfish pellets, you probably won't have an issue switching them onto pellets designed for angelfish. Examples of good nutritious pellet food I like to use are NLS discus pellets 1mm, NorthFin cichlid pellets 1mm for younger angels, 2mm for adults, NutriFin Bug Bites 0.8-1.6mm and Omega One pellets. Make sure to also include a veggie pellet once a week or so. I don't find flakes are enough to sustain angelfish, not enough food per bite, but it keeps them busy of they look bored lol. I still don't give them very much per feeding. Adult angels don't even need to eat everyday, but I feed them about 3-4 pellets each at least per day and mix up the types everytime. For breeding female fish, I feed more obviously, and food high in protein. Another really good food to try is Repashy gel foods. I use spawn and grow for my pregnant mamas.

    How old are your angels? It's easiest and the best results happen when the fish is young. My older angels don't like frozen whiteworms nearly as much as bloodworms. Keep trying, a little at a time, I have confidence they'll eventually be very interested in frozen foods as well. Still, the pellets are the staple food, feed frozen foods as a treat once or twice a week.
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    Those catfish can grow to a foot and a half long, and will eat whatever fits in their mouths

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    Yup, my zebra angels will do this. If I approach the tank too quickly, the juveniles will lose the coloration to their stripes momentarily until they realize I'm a food-bringer and not a death-giver hahaha My marbled angel doesn't do this, though, only my zebras.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BluewaterBoof View Post
    Yup, my zebra angels will do this. If I approach the tank too quickly, the juveniles will lose the coloration to their stripes momentarily until they realize I'm a food-bringer and not a death-giver hahaha My marbled angel doesn't do this, though, only my zebras.
    You are absolutely correct. The black on marbled angelfish is permanent, they actually lack the vertical black bars we are talking about. The marble gene masks these bars, unless the fish only possesses one marble gene, and the other is wild. In that case, black permanent marbleling will be present, along with vertical bars that fade with mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Those catfish can grow to a foot and a half long, and will eat whatever fits in their mouths

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    Hmmmm, that catfish might be a threat. Idk if I'd trust it especially at night with sleeping angelfish.

    I kept tiger plecos with my angels in a 120g, and (although I think the catfish were getting ready to breed), I found circular suck marks on the flanks of a couple angels with missing scales. I rehomed the catfish immediately. I would choose between the catfish and angels to keep in your tank. Just my two cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelcraze2 View Post
    You are absolutely correct. The black on marbled angelfish is permanent, they actually lack the vertical black bars we are talking about. The marble gene masks these bars, unless the fish only possesses one marble gene, and the other is wild. In that case, black permanent marbleling will be present, along with vertical bars that fade with mood.
    That's a trip. I wonder why the marbling is permanent whereas the vertical stripes are able to fade.



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