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  1. #1

    Default Confused about water conditioner


    0 Not allowed!
    I have read that water conditioners these days lock up ammonia and that this is necessary because when chloramine is broken down, it produces ammonia, which is bad for fish. I also read that just letting the water sit won't make it safe now that chloramine rather than straight chlorine is used. On the other hand, locking up ammonia is bad for beneficial bacteria! But if you wait 24 hours it is okay to add something like Safestart? What happens in those 24 hours that makes bacteria viable? So why don't partial water changes with conditioned water destroy a cycle? Is it that they need to just be small enough? Or would it also be a good idea to let conditioned water sit in a bucket for 24 hours (assuming that 24 hours somehow changes something). How small is a small enough water change for a 5 gallon tank and how often should it be done to minimize cycle disturbance?

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    Ammonia gets converted to ammonium with Seachem Prime, which is harmless to fish but still consumable by BB.
    Safestart is not needed for a properly cycled aquarium.

    Partial water changes, when done properly, do not destroy a cycle, regardless of the amount of water changed.
    Water that is properly conditioned is immediately ready to use.

    Weekly water changes are usually the norm...the amount of water changed depends on many factors, bioload in the tank being one of the main factors.
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    Nitrate levels being another factor.
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    NitrAte levels a major factor, that is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boundava View Post
    Nitrate levels being another factor.
    ???? isn't that what I said?
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    ..."that is correct", I was agreeing with you
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    OK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boundava View Post
    OK
    Have you two been married long...

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    Lol...I thought I made a typo...not unusual for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taurus View Post
    Have you two been married long...
    Bahahahahaha!!!!!! Good laugh thank you!
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