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    My poor zebra danio has been circling the drain. He swims erratically and then lays motionless on the surface of the water. I go in to remove him but he swims away. I haven't had a chance to do anything about it nor do I have anything to properly euthanize him other than putting him in an ice bath or the freezer. I'm not even sure I want to do that. Is there a better, more humane way to end his suffering?

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    Putting a fish less than 2" into an ice slurry is humane according to the American Veterinary Medical Association. Make sure the ice slurry is lower than 39F. Put the fish in, and it should die within 20 seconds. You can put the container with the fish into the freezer afterwards. If you can't make the ice slurry, you can squeeze the zebra danio's head.

    Freezing a fish in a household freezer is not humane.

    https://www.avma.org/KB/Policies/Doc...euthanasia.pdf

    start reading at page 69
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    Here's another way to euthanize. I have just used 100% clove oil method, and made sure the fish was not breathing at all then froze them for next day burial, but this is another way to let your fish pass more humanely. Just try not to use/dip aquarium tools in the clove oil-its hard to get off again. Same goes with the container you will use. When I have euthanized before I just used a zip-top sandwich bag (for small fish)
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    Good point about how is difficult to remove afterwards since soap is a no-no. I use the same container each time, and to mix the oil and water, I shake it up in an old pill bottle. I store the oil with pill bottle and container to use the next time. I only rinse the bottle and container with warm water. The oil scent is still there, so storing it in a larger container keeps the scent contained. It's not horrible, but I now associate the scent with fish deaths, so not one of my favorite.

    I watch carefully for a full minute at least, watching for any gill movement. I freeze the fish after I'm sure it has expired as well for next day burial.
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    I don't euthanize, but I'll never forget reading a poll for euthanasia techniques in which one poster said they put their fish in a small baggie of water in front of their car's tire and then quickly run over it. Brutal but quick and painless. Lights go out immediately.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksor View Post
    Put the fish in, and it should die within 20 seconds. You can put the container with the fish into the freezer afterwards.
    So, I put a small container of tank water in a big container of ice. Waiting for the temp to drop below 39F. Do I take the fish out of the tank and then plunk him in the freezing water? It seems like this would be such a shock and wrong, or am I being weird? Wouldn't you want him to "slowly" feel the temp dropping? Ugghh.....I guess it's better than having him suffer in the tank. And I don't have clove oil at the moment. Need to get some though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishlove View Post
    Do I take the fish out of the tank and then plunk him in the freezing water? It seems like this would be such a shock and wrong...
    From my understanding, scientists have done studies on fish and haven't been able to locate any nervous system facilities that would promote the sensation of pain as you and I know it. They claim that fish do not have the ability to feel pain.

    Sound weird, but I wouldn't doubt it. I had a stroke seven years ago that messed up the way my brain interprets sensations on the left side of my body. I can feel textures and pressure just fine, but I can't feel heat nor pain on that side. Strangest thing. You can cut me with a knife and it just feels like a dull object being dragged across my skin. There is no fuzzy or numb feeling associated with it; just can't feel pain. I can put my hand under steaming hot water and it just feels just like water but neither hot nor cold. So I can totally see how a fish can still sense stimuli around it without needing to feel things like temperature differences or pain, if that is what is really going on based on what the researchers say.
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    Thanks for the explanation BluewaterBoof. I guess I don't know fish in that much detail. That's why I come here. YOu guys are awesome! ;)
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    For the record, I make an ice slush tank water solution in a plastic cup, add the fish, then place in the freezer
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    Slap! Thanks for your response. I tried "liking" it but apparently it wasn't having it. On the other hand, it feels so good to be back. Maybe temporary but I really missed it here. :) I have so many things I'd like to share with you all and hopefully I'll be able to do that. I just recently signed a contract with a facility for the next few months (I usually work per diem) and my hours are M-F 8-4:30pm How sweet is that!? ha ha.....I work in health care, so when I'm scheduled 2-10:30 pm shift per say, I know I'm not getting out of there until 1-3hrs PAST my shift. Hopefully now I will be done on time. :) And I can spend some more time here.
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