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    It's been 9 day now since I added the Dr. Tim's ammonia. Per the API Master Test Kit: My ammonia is still between 3 and 4 PPM, 0 Nitrites PPM, And 0 Nitrates PPM. Is it normal for it to take this long for any Nitrates to appear? Am I being impatient again? My temp is still at 86. Is this too high? Thanks
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    Yes, it is very common for the nitrAtes to take long to show up. You will see the nitrItes first. Cycling can take 2-4 weeks. Patience is key. It has taken me 2 weeks using ammonia and seeded media from another established tank.

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    Unfortunately it is very common. I consistently get nitrite and trates started within a few days without bacteria. It has to be the water supply. About all you can do now is aeration and turn the heat up a bit. Remember this for the future. If you have any desire to get another tank in the future get the new filter well in advance and put it in your cycled tank. I cycle in about 3 days when I do that. It makes a huge difference. You can also just seed it with a small amount of media but it is lightning fast with a filter full of seasoned media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KoryKat View Post
    It's been 9 day now since I added the Dr. Tim's ammonia. Per the API Master Test Kit: My ammonia is still between 3 and 4 PPM, 0 Nitrites PPM, And 0 Nitrates PPM. Is it normal for it to take this long for any Nitrates to appear? Am I being impatient again? My temp is still at 86. Is this too high? Thanks
    What size tank is this, and how do you plan to stock it?

    86F is a bit high, 82F would be plenty...do you have a bubbler going?...if not, it would help

    The beneficial bacteria you are trying to grow need oxygen, which is depleted faster at higher temps in the water column, the bubbler would create surface agitation to aid in gas exchange

    How is the tank filtered?...what is the water source?...did you begin with a water conditioner?
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    What is the pH of the tank water. You should be seeing both nitrite and nitrate by now. 86F is fine but don't let the temp get higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    What size tank is this, and how do you plan to stock it?

    86F is a bit high, 82F would be plenty...do you have a bubbler going?...if not, it would help

    The beneficial bacteria you are trying to grow need oxygen, which is depleted faster at higher temps in the water column, the bubbler would create surface agitation to aid in gas exchange

    How is the tank filtered?...what is the water source?...did you begin with a water conditioner?
    Good catch Matt. I didn't notice his heat was currently at 86. That seems higher than necessary already.

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    Nitrifying bacteria grow best in temps between 77F - 86F.http://www.bioconlabs.com/nitribactfacts.html Any temp in that range is perfectly fine.
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    86F being top-end, I'd aim for a bit less, just for the O2 factor...bubblers/surface agitation can only do so much
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    I have a 36 g Bowfront. I recently lost all my fish to Ich/Fungus. I posted about it in the thread Ich/Fungus In the General Aquarium Forum on 04/24/17. I raised the temp up to kill the Ich (stop it from re-producing) after I euthanized my last 2 fish and used more Rid Ich twice. I am using the same water so that is why I don't understand why the Nitrites (trates) have not appeared yet. The tank was barren for about 3 days before I added the ammonia. I have a Fluval 70 HOB and yes I do have an airstone. I have turned the temp down to 80 as of this posting. My water source is tap water with Stress Coat (when I get more fish, I will use Prime) and RO water. During my weekly cleanings, the ratio was approximately 2/3 tap water and 1/3 RO water. I was not very diligent about testing my Ph, ( I tested Ammonia and Nitrates weekly) but when I tested it about 6 months ago, it was 7.4. (API Master Test Kit) I just tested it and it was well below 7.4 on the High Range Ph test. Could this be the problem? Should I drain the whole thing and start over with my current media? Or completely start from scratch? Any advice is gratefully welcomed.
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    Test the pH of your tank water just to be sure. Ammonia will cause pH to drop and if it gets to 6.0 all Nitrifying bacteria growth will stop. At 6.5 it slows down significantly.No need to start over completely, but some adjustments might be needed.
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