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    I can use some opinions. I have two koi angels awaiting for their tank to cycle and be ready for them. Almost there. I noticed that my betta living with four tetras has been getting his tail nipped on. Never saw it, just noticed the missing parts of fin. I know large angels will eat tetras. My question is; should I put the tetras with the angels and risk them nipping on the angels? The angels are not big enough to eat them, but it seems like anything with a long fin becomes a target. Sadly, these koi angels are my favorite and most expensive fish. Don't want to cause them stress.

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    With the Tetras and the Betta how large is the tank?? Tetras do way better in larger schools well over ten. Makes them way more chilled and less insecure, with larger numbers increasing there security.

    How large are the Angles??

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    The angels are between a quarter and fifty cent piece size.

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    How big is your tank that is cycling awaiting your koi angels?

    I've never seen tetras bother with angelfish fins, and I've been keeping different tetras and angelfish for a decade. The trick is to make sure the tetras have enough swimming space and keep them in a group of no less than 10 specimens like mac suggested. It also depends on the type of tetra, stay away from serpeas as they are notoriously nippy, I found out first hand. The red phantom tetra is a bit smaller than the serpea, redder and 100% docile IME. The only nippy tetra I've kept was serpea, but I think diamond tetras are boisterous as well. I've heard columbian tetras are nippy, but in a group of 11 full grown columbians in a 90g, they were completely fine even with small, young angels. Unless your looking at very small tetas like embers, I think you should be ok letting the angels grow up with tetras so that they are less likely to view the tetras as food.
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    Had diamonds and they are indeed boisterous, highly active and very energetic. They intimidated the rest of my tank until I re homed them.
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    Okay, finally got a zero reading on the nitrates, and everything else is good. So I moved the two koi angels. It is a 25 gallon. They were hanging out in a planted 10 gallon for the last week or so, waiting. I do plan to add to the group of neon tetras, but wondering if it would be a good (and safe) idea to move them into the 25 with the angels. Or, would that be considered tight quarters for them?

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    I tend to use my 10 gallons as quarantine.

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    I've never seen aggressive neons. It would be the angels that kill the neons. Even if they do not eat them, they will likely kill them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquawoman View Post
    Okay, finally got a zero reading on the nitrates, and everything else is good. So I moved the two koi angels. It is a 25 gallon. They were hanging out in a planted 10 gallon for the last week or so, waiting. I do plan to add to the group of neon tetras, but wondering if it would be a good (and safe) idea to move them into the 25 with the angels. Or, would that be considered tight quarters for them?
    Ok, these are my thoughts:
    I think that would be tight, if you want to keep it simple with no potential issues. If the angels breed, the tetras well be pushed to the opposite side of the breeding site and kept there. But I've considered adding dither fish to my 3ft breeder tanks, so I can't say for sure it won't work. I really have never seen any angelfish go after a tetra in all my years keeping them together, they will push them away aggressively, but oftentimes don't even make contact. The tetras eventually get it, and stay away from the pair of angels. They would need some plant (artificial or live) to retreat to though, as angelfish are very big on "line of sight". Territories are broken up with tall plants and hardscape that block sight . Also, you'd be at your absolute max for stocking as well, keep in mind, full-grown angelfish need 10g each as a guideline.

    I left you a decision to make, I think if you really want to keep tetras with the angels, you could try it. Although a 10g isn't big enough for tetras long term, you'd have to keep your eye out and move the tetras if you see any issues.

    I'm sure you understand about cycling, just making sure, was this quote supposed to read:
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    finally got a zero reading on the nitr-ITES
    ?

    Quick reminder in case: You want to test 0 ppm Ammonia, 0ppm Nitr-ITE, and some nitr-ATES to be considered cycled. Keep the nitrates under 20ppm with water changes and/or live plants.
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    really have never seen any angelfish go after a tetra in all my years keeping them together
    I have seen people have success with keeping both of them together but that was not the case for me once. I had a koi angel that would go directly after any smaller fish and would not stop till he got the satisfaction of pecking at their dead body on the sand substrate. Then I had the pair that couldn't have cared less. Its a toss up. Fish really do have personalities despite popular opinion. :)

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