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    Please share your thoughts and experiences regarding adding new members to a group of social fish.

    Do you try to add in enough newbies so that they are comfortable within their own little group?

    In other words, say if you have 13 Rummynose Tetras and wish to increase your total. Would you make additions in a minimum group size of 5-6, just so they would still be relaxed if they don't immediately join up with your original shoal?
    (I've never added to my Rummynose count, but that example is just for discussion purposes. This is not in my immediate plan.)

    Specifically, I am looking to add to my Cherry Barbs. I have done so before, but not always with success. I do suppose that the personality of the individual CB has a part to play.
    There was a lone female that I added by herself and she did quite well with it all. In thinking back about her in particular, she was quite outgoing, friendly. She is our long-finned CB (named Blossom) and we also have Annette. Those are my only 2 females, though and I would like to adjust the ratio. I have 2 male CB as well. So my total CB is 2M and 2F. (and yes, they would harass another male.)

    The ideal ratio for Cherry Barbs is 1M:2F.
    Past attempts to correct the ratio were done a good while back. In 2015 -- Aug and again in Nov of the same year:
    I've added in a lone female before that did not work out. The other CBs did not accept her and she just never did thrive or grow. I thought it was perhaps due to adding one by herself (she was all I could find at that time). The next attempt, waiting until there were 3 together, I had high hopes. However, these 3 were so very tiny. They also remained excluded from the original CB group and just withered away one by one.

    I'm really not sure if this is more of a Cherry Barb specific thing, or if it is more a generalized social fish thing. So, I'm open to both fixes.

    I'm looking for thoughts or suggestions that you are willing to share.
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    I don't see a problem with adding just 2 more, but I've never kept CB's
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    I would add 8 more so that they have a choice to stay within their group or merge with another. You can't force fish from different shoals to form one big shoal.

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    I've added small numbers to groups without any issues in the past (not cherry barbs, though). I've sometimes underestimated and may add say 7 fish, only to realize later that maybe 10-12 would work nicely. So I've gone back to get 3 or 4 more. I've done this with pencilfish, chilis, ruby tetras. Or if a particular school starts to dwindle that I want to maintain, I'll increase the numbers rather than let the whole school die out. I've done this with silver tip tetras and WCMM. Planning to do this also with my diamond tetras when available at my LFS.

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    I have added to groups the same way and some come together and other just like to be alone. When I moved the espies fro the 20L to the 75 I added another 6 to their group and 5-of the 6 joined the others as soon as they got bigger and are part of the group, I have one loaner that likes to stay by my little anubias on suction cup in the front-dunno why. My rainbows are good at forming their own mini-groups within the tank so I can have 2 or 3 of them going one. It depends on the fish and I think the age. When I got more emperor tetras they were bitty babies and grouped with the rainbows and endler fry until they got bigger are one day realized they were Emperors and what are they doing swimming with the commoners! The group of 6 emperors I have now are between swimming with the rainbows-or finding their own kind to hang around with.
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    Since Cherry barbs are not tight schoolers like some cypriniformes and characins you would be good to add 6-8 at one time so they have their own group that they are already familiar with.
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    Thanks for this. I'm glad to see this discussion, since am looking to add to my own school of cherry barbs.
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