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    Hello all,

    Had a 30 gallon aquarium for a long time, with just a few fish over the last few years. When the tank started years ago I had 5 tiger barbs and 5 or 6 cherry barbs, as well as a plecostomus. There were no problems, and the fish lived at least a few years each. As they died off, we didn't replace for awhile. Did a complete clean, let it run for a few days with the one cherry barb left, and then bought 4 more cherry barbs, 5 tiger barbs, and 1 gold algae eater. There is some major aggression going on, I'm pretty sure on the part of the tiger barbs. I'm down to 3 tiger barbs, and 1 cherry barb, and the algae eater. All the dead fish and two of the living fish show signs of fins being bitten. I don't like intentionally killing fish, and would like at least two or three variety of fish in addition to the algae eater. Should I try increasing the both schools to the 6-8 size, or something else?

    Thanks for any thoughts.

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    Well I would omit the tiger barbs and stick with the cherry barbs and maybe a rasbora instead. The tigers may need a larger group to keep the aggression within their group, and to not attack other fish.

    If you have your heart set on tigers, then you can get different color varieties of them within your tank and that will cut down on aggression. That would mean no cherries.
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    Tiger barbs are naturally aggressive, and when you had it initially, they were fine with the old inhabitants. As your fish died off, they laid claim to the territory. When you did a complete clean, chances are you lost your good bacteria, and chances are that you had ammonia/nitrite spikes after adding new fish. This will cause other fish to become aggressive as well.


    1. Buy a liquid API freshwater master test kit, and test the ammonia and nitrite levels of the tank.
    2. Get Seachem Prime, you will need this for a cycling aquarium.
    3. Increase your schools to at least 10 once the tank is fully cycled.

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    Welcome to the AC, good advice above.
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    Ok, thanks for the advice. I thought it might be worth testing the water, but historically (I've had tanks on and off for about 10 years) I have *never* tested the water, and never had a problem. Will this liquid test kit, which I have read is the best one, be easy enough to figure out how to use? Or is there a place online that has good instructions you would recommend?

    Thanks!

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    https://www.amazon.com/API-Freshwate.../dp/B000255NCI

    The instructions that come with it aren't that great IMO, like 8 different languages, and I only speak one, lol...tiny print, too....but the tests are not difficult to perform

    I made a cheatsheet to refer to, see below...you fill the test tubes with tank water to the marked line, then:


    AMMONIA:
    8 DROPS FROM BOTTLE 1, 8 DROPS FROM BOTTLE 2, SHAKE 5 SECONDS, WAIT 5 MINUTES.


    NITRATE:
    10 DROPS FROM BOTTLE 1, INVERT TO MIX, VIGOROUSLY SHAKE BOTTLE 2, 2 MINUTES OR MORE, 10 DROPS FROM BOTTLE 2, SHAKE HARD FOR 1 MINUTE, WAIT 5 MINUTES.

    PH:
    3 DROPS, INVERT TO MIX, RESULTS ARE IMMEDIATE.

    NITRITE:
    5 DROPS, SHAKE 5 SECONDS, WAIT 5 MINUTES.

    HIGH PH:
    5 DROPS, INVERT TO MIX, RESULTS ARE IMMEDIATE.


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    Ok all, sorry for the time it took to get this water tested. My store didn't have what I needed, then a kid got sick, then the wife, overtime on the fire department, etc...

    I think these are my results.

    PH - 8.2/8.3 ish (For sure a 7.6 on the regular PH, a very light purple, seems a bit above 8.2 and less than 8.4)
    Ammonia - 0-0.25ppm range. Very close to 0.
    Nitrite - 0 ppm
    Nitrate - 40 ppm or so.

    Down to one of each barb and the algae eater. So, I'm thinking I'll fix the water how needed and then put in whatever.

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    I think I'm attaching an image with all my water test results.

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    Oh, and one more thought. Since I'm down to almost no fish left at the moment, I'm not opposed to completely changing the fish I have in there, if it means not modifying the water on a regular basis. I'd like some color and such with the fish, but otherwise type of fish is open at this point.

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