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  1. #1

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    WARNING LOOOOONG STORY AHEAD

    Michael was purchased from my LFS Pacific Aquarium and Plant on Feb 15th 2017. He was the only CT and was full of 'personality' / Aggression. Out of all the Berta's he displayed himself the most. We got home and he moved right into a 5g tank. . Life has been good, weekly 50% water changes, 0 nitrates, 0 nitrites, 6 ph, a semi planted tank... well nice from the point of view of humans.

    Michael on the other hand was unhappy, he would frequently flare at his reflection. (Never at the glass but at the black acrylic divider of his tank). I thought it would die down, but within two weeks I saw a pinhole in his fin. After researching I learned it was called a blowout and was caused by excessive flaring.

    I had a... wee freak out.

    I was sure the reflection was the problem so I quickly drew up a laser cut blueprint of the acrylic divider, hit a sheet of acrylic with 80 grit sandpaper and cut it out.


    We installed the new back and it seemed like this were turning around.


    An hour later he found the filter intake vent that I cut out and was flaring at the small uncovered area...
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    The next day he ripped his caudal fin and broke a ray...


    Immediately I made several frantic Amazon orders for stress coat, a critter keeper, sponge filter setup, and a few other things.

    So I covered his tank with a towel hoping if he couldn't see himself/ anything he wouldn't flare. Then at the store I walked past the rubber made section and found a gem! Aka a plastic translucent tub. I pulled out the drill and made some adjustments, slapped it with some sand paper and bada bing bada boom. A tank!



    Michal moved in soon after the tub was sterilized... so far it's been 12h with no flaring... I am a little salty, but relived that his comfort has improved... jk realllllly salty...

    Also what do I now put in his old 5g?!?!?
    Last edited by CaptainByMoonlight; 03-06-2017 at 02:24 AM.
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    0 Not allowed!
    I'd put him back into the tank.

    He can't stay in an unfiltered container for long, the stress will only make things worse

    Maybe I'm missing something here...
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    Added a sponge filter after the last photo was taken. The bucket (2.5g) is a temporary solution until I can get my 10g up and running.
    Last edited by CaptainByMoonlight; 03-06-2017 at 02:54 AM.
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    Good job.

    I still believe I'd give him a bit more time in the tank, perhaps nearly no light for some days

    Is there lots of activity outside of the tank that may be a stress factor for him?
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    Not much activity my job keeps me out of the house for most of the day. Your advice on putting him back in the 5g is sound, but I don't think I'd risk him going back in and ripping anything else... well thinking about it now since he is out of the tank at the moment I could take the chance to drain the tank, And hit the black acrylic with some 80 grit sand paper to reduce the reflection...

    Although I kind of want to give him a few days in the impromptu hospital bucket to rest in IAL and stress guard...
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    The QT period may heal the fin ripping behavior, but will it make a difference once he's returned to the tank, is the question

    After all, the tank IS his ultimate home

    I have just a small amount of experience with betta, but I do recall the least amount of stress for mine seemed to do them well
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    I apologize for being difficult, and I agree with you completely, he should be returned to his tank. However the mirror polish on the back of his tank needs to be addressed before I would even think about putting him back in his home. It being maybe not the source but definitely the focus of his aggression. The clarity is such that he sees his reflection and attempts to fight himself off.

    This gives me as I see it two options. One, remove or alter the original tank to reduce the reflection on the black acrylic. Two get a new tank set up for him pronto.

    On a side note thank you for you help. I appreciate the feedback.
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    No need for apologies, you are not being "difficult" at all.

    Is he mirror polish interior or exterior?
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    It's black acrylic shiny as a new penny. He never flared at the glass of the tank, only the black acrylic turned the flow up on the filter since Michael wasn't in there and turned the light on for the picture I'm keeping it off for now
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