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    I've been battling this for some time now (since December). I believe it to be diatoms but from everything I've read I'm having doubts. It's color is mainly brown and it makes everything slick.

    I took every bit of rock and decorations out last Sunday when I did my weekly 50% W/C. Everything was scrubbed down with hot tap water and placed back in the tank. Fastfoward to today and this is what the rocks look like now. As you can see in the photo's, it's coming back yet again.

    I only feed once daily what the fish can consume within a few minutes. My test readings before a W/C are.... Nitrates - 15, Nitrates - 0, Ammonia -0, PH -7.2

    Lightning is 2hrs Actenics, 6 1/2hrs white, and 6hrs Actenics again, all from a Beamswork 6500k LED light (0.5w leds).

    Any advice on what I'm doing wrong or what I can try? Maybe this is normal?

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    109 views and no suggestions? This post must've fell through the cracks.
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    I'd leave the white turned on longer.
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    If it's diatoms, many times they'll go away on their own, once the silicates from the substrate lessen through WC's....but, you could have silicates in your water source as well
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    If it rubs off fairly easy its diatoms. Which is what it looks like. A toothbrush is an awesome tool.

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    It looks like diatoms to me, too. They are so tiny that if you brush them off in the water they will still float around and settle on the surfaces again. I am still dealing with them in my 75G that was set up last Summer. It completely covers the leaves of my anubias and I wipe them off with each WC when the water level is down. Keep vacuuming the substrate surface. Wipe off the glass that is above the water line right after you have removed water at WC time but before you refill. Try to keep the diatoms from floating back into the water. Keep you filters clean, too.
    I also had this problem in another tank for about a year and it was after all the cleanings and adding some otos that it finally is gone. Good luck.
    BTW, I have also tested my tap and tank water for silicates and they have the same results of "5".
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    When I notice diatoms in my tanks, I add nerite snails. They really do a great job at keeping diatoms under control, as diatoms are their favorite food and they are great nutrition for their shells. I still get diatoms in my low light tank, but I'll take diatoms over other types of algae that are harder to remove IME.
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    I appreciate the responses and suggestions gang! The tank was neglected for awhile but I've stayed on top of it since the end of November. I'm going to try each suggestion and report back.

    I usually only clean my canister filter every 3-4 months but I'll change that to 2 months. My HOB gets cleaned every 2 weeks. I don't vacuum the gravel as much as I should (maybe 2x's a year) so I'll start doing that more often. I never thought about wiping the glass down before adding new water!

    Thanks!
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    These things work great for cleaning your glass, just be sure you use the "Original", it contains no detergents

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    As I did a water change today, I noticed I wipe/rub the algae and diatoms off my plant leaves and anything that can't be removed for cleaning with my siphon ready to suck up the loosened particles. You could remove decor like rocks and wipe them down outside the tank. Use old tank water to rinse them if you want to preserve nitrifying bacteria. I wipe down the glass the same way Silbar explained, and the glass beneath the water line, I wipe keeping my sponge against the glass until it's out of the water. I can clearly see diatoms on my sponge and I rinse it everytime the sponge comes out of the water in a jug of old tank water. I rinse my HOB filter media in the same jug during a WC each week.

    Diatoms aren't actually an algae, but the exoskeleton of microorganisms, which gives it that dust-like texture.
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