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    So I have 3 tiny goldfish (black moor, red cap, and an oranda maybe (not sure, she just looked sad at the petsmart when I was buying crickets for my mantis, so I snagged her up). I am buying them a maybe 60 - 75 gal tank hopefully this weekend (even though I would love to talk my hubby into a new 120!) . I know they can't live in a 10 gal and need at the least 50 to be happy. Which is why I'm not asking about that lol. my game plan is; now that they are my fish, to tell my husband they need a bigger house then convert the 10 into a small plant and tetra/cory tank. But the pH of my water has me a little concerned.

    the water in the tank is registering at a 7.8
    Today, I was testing my tap water because I was getting funky nitrate/nitrite levels in my cycling 5gal and I wanted to see if I was picking things up from the tap.
    I tested the tap and it is reading right at an 8.3

    But I am concerned about when I set up this larger tank. I don't want these poor things to be miserable for the rest of their lives because the pH is too high. I don't even know if I need to ask if it's too high, I just feel like it is. What can I do to help bring it down? Is there a certain substrate or are there plants I can use? I personally love having live plants in with my Goldies. Good for my black moors eyes and they get to snack lol.

    Someone tell me what I can do about the pH so I know what my game plan is for the big set up.
    Thanks in advance.
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    They are fine in high PH water.

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    They are!? Gosh, this is why I love goldfish, they're just so stubborn! lol

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    Test your tap after it has sat for 24 hours, give it some time to gas off.
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    What type of corys-the dwarf variety? The regular will be too big in a group of 6 for a 10 gallon and a lot of tetras will be in a confined tank for 10 gallons unless you go nano-and even then a lot of tetras like to move. Have you thought about boraras? They would do well in a 10 gallon, multilevel fish that don't dither like other tetras like to, but can be happy just "hanging out". Come in a variety-I have chilis which were in a 10 gallon and I upgraded to a 20 L when petco had their sale.
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    Brigittae aka chili boraras (rasboras-some scientist thought he was funny calling them boraras)
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    These aren't mine, but a photo from Rachel O' Leary, she usually has one or another of the boraras in stock and they are all pretty stunning little fish. You could put 15 in the 10 gallon with a good filter and another 12 pygmy/dwarf corys too. The chillis would probably have fun staring at the corys. I have mine with kuhlis and they think they are the neatest thing and will just watch them loach around the bottom of the 20L.

    BTW my tap is usually around 7.6-7.8. and they do fine with it, it the Lake Michigan water.
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    oh i haven't even begun to consider what tetra/cory i was going to have in the 10. Those are adorable though! I just want fish that are small and want to hang out together and swim around in some live plants. lol I actually had rasboras in my 40gal a long, long, time ago. They were adorable. I just know I want small fish (with 10 gals that's probably a no brainer lol )

    I will pull a cup of tap and test it tomorrow night. Thanks for the heads up :D Do I need to condition the water first or just test it as is???
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    oh i haven't even begun to consider what tetra/cory i was going to have in the 10. Those are adorable though! I just want fish that are small and want to hang out together and swim around in some live plants. lol I actually had rasboras in my 40gal a long, long, time ago. They were adorable. I just know I want small fish (with 10 gals that's probably a no brainer lol )

    I will pull a cup of tap and test it tomorrow night. Thanks for the heads up :D Do I need to condition the water first or just test it as is???
    There are no tetras I would keep in a 10G tank, but nano fish would do OK with the proper setup

    No need to treat the tap sample for a ph test

    gh and kh tests from the tap would be helpful as well
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    yeah I saw talk about gh kh in another post... got the test in the mail, should be here tomorrow in time for the test.

    define nano fish? I also thought tetra were pretty darn small!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    There are no tetras I would keep in a 10G tank
    What about embers? :)

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    Embers need a longer footprint than a 10-gallon will allow. I have a whole group of them in the 20 and they are very active little guys. They wouldn't have the room they need in a 10 gallon. Chili's on the other hand don't move as much dithering wise as the Embers do. Even the espeis moved less than the Embers although they move more than the Chili's. Celestial Pearl danios are another option, they also tend to stay more in one spot kind of like the Chili's.
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