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    As hoped, I received a 29g tank setup for Christmas. I'm planning on setting it up as another semi-biotope, this one based on the Orinoco system of South America.

    General setup:
    29g tank; Walstad-style setup. This means no filtration ; just plants and a small 530 gph powerhead to circulate the water. Soil under Black Diamond sand substrate. 108 LED light fixture: Daylight/moonlight, nothing fancy, knock-off brand but appears sturdy and well built, and plenty bright enough for any plants I want to grow.

    'Scape:
    Flooded forest aquascape. Black sand substrate; possibly terraced with a section of natural sand. Lots of vertical wood structure: I'm going to head out to the desert some time this week and try to find some old, weathered juniper roots and branches to play the role of tree trunks. Some smooth river stones around the roots.

    Flora:
    Plants should include some of the smaller swords (melon, rosette), some sort of low-grower up front (possibly eleocharus mini...recommendations?), Java moss and ferns on the hardscape, and some smaller-leafed plants here and there for varied color and texture (maybe Alternatera reineckii 'rosaefolia'? recommendations?). Red-root floaters and/or Frogbit up top. As per the Walstad method, I want to start with at least 10 different plant species and weed out the less successful/less pleasing ones as time goes by. Thanks Amazon Joe for the recommendations so far.

    If the plants don't keep the parameters optimal, I'm thinking about adding a very simple aquaponic-ish setup, with some smallish decorative and/or edible plants (peppers and well-trimmed tomatoes, most likely, this being South America and all) in peat pots along the top, roots trailing directly into the aquarium.

    Fauna:
    2 Natural-colored Scalare Angels. I really want altums, but I don't think this tank is tall enough for them, and they're a fairly fussy species, needing more care than I am willing/able to give. Scalares are almost as pretty, close enough for the biotope, and a heckuva lot easier to take care of.
    10 Cardinal Tetras. I could do 20 Rubies, but I'm afraid the angels would eat them. Thoughts?
    5 Bandit cories.
    10 Otocinclus.

    That's all for now...

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    Congrats on the new journal.

    Angels may indeed bother the rubies, I'd stick with cards...get at least 6 of the corys, 8 even better, they stay pretty small.
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    Sounds amazing so far I think with enough plants they will establish nicely and will create your natural filtration without the need for the aquaponic keeping the look of your tank kinda minimalistic? What lid are you going with the glass one ?



    Also Vallisneria americana (jungle val) is found naturally in SA. So you could have that in the background flowing overtop the wood and branches.

    I also found with a power head flowing through all the blades it creates the natural filtration.

    I would also suggest some ghost shrimp to help clean up around and between the plants. Add them when the tank is real heavily established with plants get the biggest specimens you can find and give them luck to survive among the angels lol
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    So I got THIS power head off Amazon few months ago for the rainbow tank. It works well good flow and super cheap. Only draw back I have ran into is when you unplug and replug some times it reverses flow. So I just unplug and replug until it corrects.

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    Wow, Joe, I just ordered that exact same powerhead this morning. I believe Nat (Boundava) uses them, too. Brilliant minds, indeed! ha ha ha

    Nice idea on the val. I didn't like it in the Angkor tank, but it might work better with this one. Oh, and if I do any aquaponic stuff, it will indeed be very minimalist looking. Boof mentioned something in one of my other threads about Rachel O'Leary simply putting some "devil's ivy" in an HOB filter, growing right out the top, and it cleaned out her water so well it actually killed off all her beneficial algae and mosses. So, that has me thinking...why not a windowsill planter on the top, planted with herbs and/or veggies, with water flow from the tank going through it? Mrs. Badger does like the look of emergent plants. It's a thought.

    Slap, I could probably get away with six cories. Seriously Fish recommends at least 4, and with 5 AqAdvisor has me right on the edge of overstocked. One of the tenets of a Walstad tank is fairly light stocking (like that's ever gonna happen in one of my tanks), so I'm trying to take it easy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhistlingBadger View Post
    Slap, I could probably get away with six cories. Seriously Fish recommends at least 4, and with 5 AqAdvisor has me right on the edge of overstocked. One of the tenets of a Walstad tank is fairly light stocking (like that's ever gonna happen in one of my tanks), so I'm trying to take it easy...
    Well, I'll never have one of those types of tanks then, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Well, I'll never have one of those types of tanks then, lol
    Yeah, no kidding.

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    Ah soil microbes. What that part is really fun.
    IME I have found all the the tanks I have set up which I have given a soil substrait, have always been the most stable in paramiters.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Ah soil microbes. What that part is really fun.
    IME I have found all the the tanks I have set up which I have given a soil substrait, have always been the most stable in paramiters.

    Once they settle down, yes, that's been my experience too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhistlingBadger View Post
    Once they settle down, yes, that's been my experience too.
    Yes the actual cycle as such takes a lot longer. But stable. Something you can't get from a bottle that is for sure.

    Shame i can't really do it in a tanganyika reef theme.


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