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    I found one of my Nerite snails last night with Rams horn snail taking a ride on his back. Not unusual, I see this from time to time, but as I watched, the Rams horn was spewing a clear substance on the shell of the Nerite snail. The slime had small "dots" in it, and I assumed the rams horn was laying eggs on the Nerite. So, I reached in, removed the Rams Horn, and wiped off the slime.

    This morning I found that same Nerite with what looks like portions of the shell disintegrating for lack of better verbiage. Can someone tell me what might be going on here, and is it possible that this is a result of the Rams Horn's activity. (I am 95% sure it was laying eggs...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulPerger View Post
    I found one of my Nerite snails last night with Rams horn snail taking a ride on his back. Not unusual, I see this from time to time, but as I watched, the Rams horn was spewing a clear substance on the shell of the Nerite snail. The slime had small "dots" in it, and I assumed the rams horn was laying eggs on the Nerite. So, I reached in, removed the Rams Horn, and wiped off the slime.

    This morning I found that same Nerite with what looks like portions of the shell disintegrating for lack of better verbiage. Can someone tell me what might be going on here, and is it possible that this is a result of the Rams Horn's activity. (I am 95% sure it was laying eggs...)

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    It seems to be clearing up, but I'm still curious.

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    I'm curious as well, Paul. I've never kept Nerite snails, but hopefully someone who has will chime in for you.

    Might you have any cuttlebone that you could add to this tank (if it doesn't already have a piece)? Cuttlebone is reputed to be very good for snail's shells.

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    Was the shell intact before the Rams Horn saddled it? If so, the deterioration so suddenly afterward can only be the result of the Ram Horn's activity. If it was calcium deficiency, it would happen gradually, over a period of time.

    Cuttlebone floats, and looks unsightly in a tank, unless it can be weighted down or somehow anchored into the substrate and hidden behind something there.

    Not sure what's going on with your snail's shell. If it's clearing up, then it's more likely something that was deposited onto the shell rather than an erosion. Wonder what the Rams Horn was secreting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiversGirl View Post
    I'm curious as well, Paul. I've never kept Nerite snails, but hopefully someone who has will chime in for you.

    Might you have any cuttlebone that you could add to this tank (if it doesn't already have a piece)? Cuttlebone is reputed to be very good for snail's shells.
    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidwannabe View Post
    Was the shell intact before the Rams Horn saddled it? If so, the deterioration so suddenly afterward can only be the result of the Ram Horn's activity. If it was calcium deficiency, it would happen gradually, over a period of time.

    Cuttlebone floats, and looks unsightly in a tank, unless it can be weighted down or somehow anchored into the substrate and hidden behind something there.

    Not sure what's going on with your snail's shell. If it's clearing up, then it's more likely something that was deposited onto the shell rather than an erosion. Wonder what the Rams Horn was secreting?
    Thanks ladies. To be honest, I am not sure whether it was gradual or not. I don't normally look for the snails when I look into the tank, I see them, but I rarely take notice of them. This one I did because it was on the front glass and the "goo glob" was big enough that it was noticeable from a distance. I showed the picture to one of my employees, who knows nothing about fish, but always asks about mine, and he wondered if the goo may have been produced by the Nerite, like a scab, to heal the shell, and the Ram was simply eating it. I guess that's a possibility...

    I will try adding some cuttlebone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidwannabe View Post
    Was the shell intact before the Rams Horn saddled it? If so, the deterioration so suddenly afterward can only be the result of the Ram Horn's activity. If it was calcium deficiency, it would happen gradually, over a period of time.

    Cuttlebone floats, and looks unsightly in a tank, unless it can be weighted down or somehow anchored into the substrate and hidden behind something
    Honestly, cuttlebone will sink in no time. I add it in my tanks, even in the filter if/when the shells start to erode. I have the same question, are we looking at the pits in the shell or something else?
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    Ok, just read your feedback, it really looks like regular errosion to me, it has happened to my ramhorns as well. So you say it looks like it's healing? I'm curious, do you have any recent pics?
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