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    Quote Originally Posted by WhistlingBadger View Post
    As for me, glofish are not only aesthetically displeasing--way too bright and unnatural looking. They also sort of creep me out.
    Same here for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhistlingBadger View Post
    I'm not really trying to argue the ethics or aesthetics of either one, just pointing out that they really are fundamentally different processes.
    Not disagreeing with you on the fact that they are different processes. My point was that it was the end result that's the same. Altering the genetic makeup of a particular organism to exhibit traits that we find helpful or pleasing. We've been playing around with genetic modification for thousands of years. Direct manipulation of genetic information in a laboratory is simply the next step up from what we've been doing. Heck, we aren't even the only organisms that play with genetic modification; viruses are an incredibly common vector for mutations, hijacking the very DNA and RNA of their targets.

    I know a lot of others don't share my point of view, but genetic modification really doesn't strike any moral soft spots in me. Manipulation of crops and animals was what allowed us to crawl away from being the nomadic slaves of nature that our ancestors were for the vast majority of human existence. Without it, you and I would still be crawling through bushes, looking for berries to snack on and hoping a rabbit crosses our path. Large communities would not exist, and modern civilization would not have been possible.

    I look at it this way:
    If God exists, "he" is omnipresent and all-knowing. He created nature in a way that allows genetic modification/mutation of his creations, knowing full well that his little brilliant and devious humans would mess around with it. If he didn't want the natural order of things to be messed with, he could have locked the secrets of genetics away so that they could never be discovered and manipulated.

    On the other hand, if God does not exist, living creatures are just random mistakes that occurred in the vast nothingness of the universe, there is no good or evil, and morals are just human constructs designed to keep society from slaughtering itself faster than it already is. All bets are off, it's every creature for itself, and if creating a purple Labrador is a spin-off of the technology/methods used to eradicate Huntington's Disease, I'll allow it. Humankind is guilty of much more horrific crimes than creating a neon yellow fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluewaterBoof View Post
    ...you and I would still be crawling through bushes, looking for berries to snack on and hoping a rabbit crosses our path. Large communities would not exist...
    That sounds kind of wonderful, actually...but I digress. ha ha ha

    Seriously, though, your very thought-provoking post opens a lot of moral/scientific/theological cans that I find fascinating to discuss, but not in online forums. I definitely agree with your closing point: If this is the worst ethical/scientific dilemma we face, we're doing pretty well.

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    I to am enjoying the thought provoking topic and comments. Well said boof, genetics is a very vast and intricate world a lot of good can also come out of genetics. Such as the new recent Zika virus CRISPR screen breakthrough.

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