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    Hi all - thank you for your help in advance!

    55g Freshwater tank.
    Hob drip/wet dry. Established for a decade
    78 degrees
    3" Blue Dempsy
    2" Firemouth
    3" Pleco
    Fish aren't beefing with each other..

    About six months back I battled nitrates and had some red algae issues.
    I defeated the nitrates and have obsessively kept PH/amm/Nits in good range. The algae has even stopped.
    I even took my water up to The Aquatic Critter for backup testing and all the numbers came back good.

    But the problem is, the damn fish don't want to eat.
    I'm constantly removing uneaten food - daily.
    I'm baffled as to why every fish in the tank is not dead at this point.

    I did lose a cichlid last week - but had no outward signs of infection or disease other than the not-eating part.

    So my question is - moving into possible diseases etc. what would be the most sensible next step?
    I have not committed this tank to meds/treatment in 9 years and I'm mostly out of touch with that process.
    What's next?

    Thanks in advance..

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    Have you added anything new to the tank, especially anything that came from another tank like fish or plants?
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    No, it's been mostly unchanged for all of 2016 at least.

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    How long have you had the cichlids?

    What are you feeding the fish? What size food?

    Is that a common pleco? If so, a 55g is too small of a footprint once it reaches above 6".

    For EBJD, you should keep the temperature below 77F, so I would drop the temperature to around 76F.

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    The newest fish is a couple of months old. Pleco was added to clean up uneaten food that I miss.
    It's a juvenile and I have someone who will take him if he outsizes..

    I just recently bumped up the temp from 77 to 78 so I'll drop that back down to 76..
    Thank ya

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    At that size, the fish are eating something. After 2 weeks of not eating, the stomachs would be sunken in.

    Are you removing any poo from the substrate? Pleco poo is long and stringy. What type of substrate do you have?

    Are you sure they are not eating after you left the room? A bare bottom tank would make it easier to see if they are eating something.

    What food are you feeding? What size, if pellets? How much are you feeding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocksor View Post
    At that size, the fish are eating something. After 2 weeks of not eating, the stomachs would be sunken in.

    Are you removing any poo from the substrate? Pleco poo is long and stringy. What type of substrate do you have?

    Are you sure they are not eating after you left the room? A bare bottom tank would make it easier to see if they are eating something.

    What food are you feeding? What size, if pellets? How much are you feeding?
    They get a sinking pellet - bout half the size of a bee bee. Just a pinch.
    They make be sneaking a bite but they no longer come out tails wagging begging for it..
    Beach sand - which would be difficult to temporarily remove..
    I'm not sure of the poo - which often looks like that pellet after its soaked up water for a while..

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    Oh man, you'll know what pleco poop looks like. How often are you performing water changes and how much do you change out?

    Try to switch out 50% water each week, and skim the sand to pick up rotting organics. Be sure to clean your filter media well (rinse in tank water each water change) If you could add plants (pathos, vines, etc) to your HOB filter, they would help a lot to keep your nitrates down in between WCs.
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    Have you tried frozen bloodworms or brine shrimp?

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    half the size of a bee is rather large. At your fish size, I would expect around 1mm, basically no bigger than a sewing pin head

    Last edited by Rocksor; 07-05-2016 at 06:10 PM.

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