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    Question Aquatic "sow bugs" -- source?


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    I remember as a youngster exploring small creeks and drainage ditches near my home in St. Louis. I was enthralled with little fairy shrimp and had various breeding tanks to raise them for my tropical fish. At one point, I found a crustacean that looked like a sow bug or "rolly-poly" bug and about the same size that was totally aquatic. I raised these in one of my gammarus tanks successfully. However, life went on and I grew up and those old tanks long since went away. Does anyone know what these are? is there a source for them? They seemed interesting and like good scavengers albeit too tough for standard tropical fish to eat (maybe larger cichlids, etc.).
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    could be it was something called a "scud".. you could google that and see if it looks like you remember.
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    Oh-they do look like pill-bugs!

    Seem to be pretty available as live food:

    http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...oodl1385945404

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    but then I hit this site:
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    you dont want to mess with them. yes they are easy to breed as feeders, but they are also IMPOSSIBLE to eliminate from any tank they are introduced to. and remember, they are plant eaters (especially mosses). and the big negative... if they cant get enough food, they WILL become carniverous, they have wiped out my opae ulae tank (yes they can adapt immediately from fresh to brackish water). they also will attack newly molted shrimp.

    they are not worth messing with, go with daphnia if you need a live food source. scuds are just too hard to get rid of.
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    Oh-they do look like pill-bugs!

    Seem to be pretty available as live food:

    http://www.aquabid.com/cgi-bin/aucti...oodl1385945404

    http://goliadfarms.com/shop/gammarus-scuds/


    but then I hit this site:
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    LOL, in the Aquabid description:

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    Scuds look kind of like pill bugs, but they're flattened laterally (sideways) instead of dorsoventrally (front to back) and move quite differently. Pill bugs are isopods, and in fact are the "odd one out" in the sense that most Isopods are actually aquatic and not terrestrial. Your aquatic isopod could be any if the numerous aquatic freshwater species that exist. Check this one out, for instance. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asellus_aquaticus

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    Thanks for the input. "Scuds" seems to be a large family of small crustaceans. I love my little gammarus fairy shrimp that are 1/8th to 1/4 inch long. I have not found these to be invasive. The "sow bug" looks like one of the images that shows up under the Corophium species. The freshwater version I remember did not have those "prehensile" front leg things. The "mugga" pictured in google images all seem to relate to salt water mud flats. The guy I had was fully freshwater. I bet this is the right species or family though so will search further.

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    Thanks -- this sounds and looks like the one: Asellus aquaticus. The ones I remember were 1/2 inch long and seemed "tame" but I did not have them long before moving away for college. Is the "invasive" thing with the salt water version of copepods or are we talking about the freshwater isopods?

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