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    I recommend Prime for conditioner when you run out of the SC; great stuff, you use very little to treat, so a bottle lasts a good long time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    I recommend Prime for conditioner when you run out of the SC; great stuff, you use very little to treat, so a bottle lasts a good long time
    Thanks Slap!

    I have some Prime. Will it affect param readings when testing during this cycling since it binds ammonia, etc? Also, I read somewhere that when doing water changes, treat the entire tank with conditioner, not just what is being replaced. Is this true? I've only done what I've added back.

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    When using buckets, treat the bucket amount...when using a siphon, treat the whole tank amount, when using Prime...if you have it already, I'd start using it in place of the SC

    Test your water BEFORE a water change, not after, because even though the Prime renders ammonia inert, it will still show up on the test
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    Yup, Prime is the good stuff and it takes much less of it than others due to being concentrated. Good advice there.
    Glad you got a few more fish. Stocking slowly is the way to go when cycling with fish but you still need enough to get the ball rolling or will be cycling for months. The disadvantage of cycling with fish is the constant adding of new fish because you are taking a chance with ICK after each new addition. It would be good if you had a small tank as a quarantine tank. That way you could leave your new fish in the small tank for about 3 weeks to make sure they were healthy before adding them to the big tank.

    Something you may want to consider.

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    Yes, I could not imagine cycling a tank and quarantining fish, a potential double whammy disaster. Hopefully you can work something out there, mj79. I use Prime as well in all my tanks, at every waterchange, but what also could help to cycle your tank, is a product like "Colony' by ATM (or any nitrifying/live bacteria-in-a-bottle). I can't count the amount of times I've used it to cycle my tank in a day or if I felt it was in order when adding large fish or many small fish quickly. It basically adds the good bacteria that 'eat' your amm/trItes and converts it to trAtes. Almost instant cycle. The bottle claims it would make the water safe for same-day fish introductions, but I would give it 24 hours to be on the safe side.

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    I apologize for not responding sooner. My son left for Navy Basic Training this week, so we have been a bit distracted and out of pocket.

    Things are going well, I think. The ammonia levels are staying pretty high, so I'm doing water changes daily, 50% or more. Thank goodness for a water changer siphon!!! As of this morning, trItes have not registered yet, only ammonia. Wish this cycling would get moving, lol!

    My husband is having a hard time understanding that even though the filter cartridges are nasty, we are not suppose to put new ones in until the tank has cycled. This is true, correct? We can rinse them in tank water but not put in new ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnj79 View Post

    My husband is having a hard time understanding that even though the filter cartridges are nasty, we are not suppose to put new ones in until the tank has cycled. This is true, correct? We can rinse them in tank water but not put in new ones?
    Yes, rinse them in tank water only...and don't replace them until they fall apart...you'll have to add the new ones in with the old ones, to get a BB colony growing on the new ones before getting rid of the old ones
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    Slap,

    What about what AngelCraze mentioned? I've never heard of Colony. Good idea or bad? If its ok to use, can it be used with Prime since bacteria will need ammonia to feed on (because Prime detoxifies ammonia).

    Or should I just keep doing what I've been doing?
    Thanks for your help!!

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    I've never used anything like that, either....I've done 2 fishless cycles on 2 different tanks, and all I used was ammonia...Prime to begin the cycle, of course, so the tap water was safe for the beneficial bacteria to grow in

    If I were you, I'd keep doing what you are doing...
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    Interesting. I have the API test kits and over the past year readings for both have been near zero. Shake the water and the color is always the same. Started up a 46g planted tank last week and today's readings are 0. I added some flakes in the get some decay happening. Also added some bacteria in a bottle (like Colony mentioned earlier) to assist the cycle. Haven't decide what fish to stock yet.

    Nice thread to read.
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