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    0 Not allowed!
    I wasn't sure where to put this post, but this seemed like the most appropriate place.

    I have a 20 gallon fresh water tank. In the past, i have had mollies, glow fish and one Rapheal Catfish. This tank survived utter neglect (not something I'm proud of) in the past. Every mollie and glowfish died and algae was everywhere. But my catfish survived, even thrived, in these conditions with no heater or regular feedings.

    Fast forward a few years later, Lars (the catfish) is still alive and we have new mollies and glowfish. I buy a new filter and theyre all dead. Including my 7 year old Lars. So, i clean the tank out and just let it sit, as i now have a newborn and no time or money to mess with a fish tank.

    Fast forward again to about 4 months ago. I decide to get some fish. This time, i want something flashy, pretty. I clean the tank and let fresh, treated water circulate. I go to the local chain pet store as i have always done and start looking at fish. Cichlids have always fascinated me, so i get 2 about 2.5 inches long and bring them home. They do great. They thrive. My now toddler son loves to watch them eat. Their names are Simon and Garfunkel. About a month goes by and algea starts to build up. I go back to said pet store. I know cichlids can be aggressive towards smaller fish and all they have are small plecostomus. So, i go to the other chain pet store. They have larger ones. I get one aboot the same size as our cichlids. I bring it home and place him in the tank the same way i have done all new fish.

    About a week goes by and the new guy looks sick. The same way the others did before they died. He dies. Then, just like before, the other 2 died off one at a time. Then, the day after I flushed the last fish, i noticed something weird. There was no algea whatsoever. The air lines, glass, pirate skull, driftwood, had all be covered in a thin layer. Now, nothing. I saw a fine layer of what Ican only assume was dead algea floating at the top. I was so disgusted, i let the tank sit, water and all.

    There is still no algea growth after about 2 to 3 months of sitting. But, today, I walked by and saw something a little bit smaller than a pencil eraser floating in the water. 2 somethings. I got a flashlight and discovered more. There are about half a dozen small snails in my tank that has been closed since all the fish died. We had 2 snails in there before the first batch of fish died, but none since.

    I say all of that to ask 2 questions.

    Could there have been snail eggs in the water from the plecostomus we bought?
    Could the snails have killed my fish?

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    3 Not allowed!
    Snail eggs are usually carried in with plants, but they can be in tank water sometimes, too.

    The snails didn't kill your fish; your uncycled tank did.

    Please read about cycling in the beginner section of the forum. There's lots of other good info there, too.

    Have a look at the 10 gallon journal in my sig below; we had no clue about cycling when we first started fishkeeping, too
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    I agree, an uncycled, and incorrectly stocked tank are the most likely culprit. Lars, the cichlids and the pleco (if a common) were all too large of fish for a 20g

    Before you go back to the fish store, look over the cycling section on a fish-less cycle, start a journal with a few pictures and posts about your goal for the tank. And many of the members here can help guide you in the direction of a well stocked, well cycled tank that will make you very happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaphppy7 View Post
    Snail eggs are usually carried in with plants, but they can be in tank water sometimes, too.

    The snails didn't kill your fish; your uncycled tank did.

    Please read about cycling in the beginner section of the forum. There's lots of other good info there, too.

    Have a look at the 10 gallon journal in my sig below; we had no clue about cycling when we first started fishkeeping, too

    I am sorry for your losses, but Slaphppy7 is correct-you didn't allow the tank to cycle and that is why your fish died.

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    Rather than starting over time and again and killing the fish each time, learn how to keep them. Your tank is not cycled and you have the wrong fish for a 20 gallon. You will fail once again unless you learn how and what to stock.

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    Sorry to hear about all your problems.

    I agree with everyone, the uncycled tank is responsible for your problems. In fact, since most beneficial bacteria live in your filter, when you changed your old filter in your old tank, you threw out all your beneficial bacteria with your old filter, resulting in a suddenly uncycled tank, which caused the deaths of Lars and the mollies.

    I would empty the tank, clean it, and start over, but make sure you thoroughly read the sticky on fishless cycling before you do anything.

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    Excellent advice from all. Everyone here will help you set up a healthy tank for your fish.
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