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    Excellent work in revamping your cold water section. You have a good list already. Platies can be temperate. Have you looked at flagfish?

    It does depend on the temperature of people's houses of course. These wouldn't survive in my ideal temperature in winter. I like it colder than most people...my other half always moans how cold it is when the be been in the house by myself in winter.
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    I don't think belong in unheated tanks.
    They will survive because they are hardy, but all do best in higher temps. I used to forget occasionally to plug the heater back in after a water change. I always was reminded within hours by lethargic, appetite-less endlers.

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    Akysis catfish are well suited to unheated tanks, do well alone or in groups, and while they will eat small fry they don't grow very large at all. Newborn livebearer fry are near the upper end of their mouth capacity.

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    Thank you for so many replies and tips! I should have mentioned I live in New Zealand, where the variety of fish available is a bit pathetic...no flagfish, no akysis catfish, and even bulldog plecos are so rare I've yet to see on in the flesh o.O
    Endlers I'd forgotten about, will definitely see if we can get some in. I always make sure to clarify to customers that by 'room temp' we mean generally no lower than 16C, preferably 18-22C. Hillstream loaches are my babies so anybody trying to buy one gets the lecture on oxygen levels and healthy diet before they can take one home

    On gold barbs and rosy barbs, what would you say us the minimum tank size? Last week I sent a group of 6 small gold barbs home to a 50litre tank... I wasn't comfy with it at all, but the lady was annoyed that I wouldn't sell her a bunch of fantails and I knew if she didn't go home with something she would have come back later in the week when I'm not there and got one of the new staff to sell goldfish (that's happened before, the problem with high staff turnover ) It's not ideal but better 6 gold barbs in a 50L than 5 fantails right?

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    Gold barbs don't grow very large, and while more space would be preferable they aren't likely to kill each other (or anything else) in a small tank.

    ^^^^Please click the eggs/dragons, thanks...

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    Yeah, a little more room would be preferable, but much better than a bunch of goldfish. Good job on the hillstream loaches. Over here a lot of people don't realize what they are and just stick them in any old tank. I'm working on getting my 40 gallon ready for a large group of hillstreams. Right now I'm waiting on money to get lights so I can start growing algae for them.
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    I really wish I could keep hillstream loaches. The are incredibly cool. What about dojo loaches? Don't they do well in cooler water?

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    That's reassuring that you agree about the golden barbs :) What we need is for somebody to selectively breed a healthy dwarf comet variety! Haha. I've vaguely heard of dojo loaches but not seen any in NZ and not sure we can get them - a shame because they sound quite interesting. Good luck with your hillies, Compass. They are such a vastly underrated fish :)

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    idk if glofish are legal in new zealand but the do fine in 21 degree-ish water.
    i wish i could get them in canada
    i hear some people say, "i kept a goldfish in a bowl and it lived for a year."
    they don't know how lucky they were and all goldfish live at least 15 years in proper conditions.
    that is equal to saying my human lived in his closet for 5 years!

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    I find it ironic that so many people set up hillstream tanks with very strong water flow for Sewellia species, and they will spawn in warmer water with only an air-driven sponge filter. I had a group of them in a 20 gallon tank for months, even had a few babies coming along, until a heater malfunction killed them all. Why so little variety available in NZ? Restrictions on imported species?

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