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    Hi, all.

    The Java moss in my Asian 55g is in limbo. It is green, but not bright green; surviving but not growing. It is attached to sandstone. Water parameters are medium; 0 nitrite, near 0 nitrate. I have quite a bit of algae growing in the tank, if that helps. Light is a Current USA Satellite LED+, 48" fixture, on 10 hours/day. There are floating dwarf water lettuce over the moss which I try to keep fairly thinned out.

    Tank is rather understocked at the moment: 1 red tail shark, a couple snails and amano shrimp, 2 dwarf gouramis, 10 pentazona barbs, and around 10 zebra danios. Could that be the problem?

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    Maybe the nutrient level is too low ?

    I would suggest looking into dosing some ferts and see how that goes.
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    What's the temperature? Mosses often struggle in overly warm tanks. If yours is 80F+ that may be your problem.
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    The dwarf lettuce can diffuse light a bit too much, too
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    I keep it right around 75f. Never above 80. I'm reluctant to dose ferts, because I'm afraid it will exacerbate an already moderate algae problem. Thoughts?

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    Not sure - java moss is dead easy to grow.

    I'd say 10 hours is too long a light period if you aren't dosing any ferts and have near zero nitrate. Algae will easily out-compete the plants. Reduce your lighting period to eight hours and dose some ferts. Algae is normally caused by too much light or an imbalance of light vs. CO2 in the water column vs. available nutrients. Finding the right balance (however low or high tech you want to go) is essential for good plant growth above that of your algae.

    A small amount of algae in a tank isn't anything to worry about. Mine always has a bit of green algae and a few small patches of BBA that doesn't ever gain the upper hand.
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    Yeah, everybody says Java moss is easy, and crypts are hard...my cripts are growing like weeds (except parva, which I have never had any success with) while my moss languishes. Well, I've always been a bit odd.

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    Not sure - java moss is dead easy to grow.
    Algae is normally caused by too much light or an imbalance of light vs. CO2 in the water column vs. available nutrients. Finding the right balance (however low or high tech you want to go) is essential for good plant growth above that of your algae.
    The frustrating thing is that there seems to be no real rule about this; it's just a "fiddle with it until everything lines up." Of course, that's part of the fun, too. I actually was thinking about increasing the intensity of the light (this fixture is considered on the low side of medium for a 55g, and I'm pretty sure that's why I've never been able to grow dwarf hairgrass), but decreasing the length of daylight. I want to add one of these babies. It would get a bit more light down under the floaters.

    Then maybe a low dosage of some ferts and/or increase my stocking. What do you think that would do?

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    ...and aren't high nitrates one of the causes of algae problems? So, I need to increase my nitrates? Pardon me for a moment while my brain explodes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhistlingBadger View Post
    ...and aren't high nitrates one of the causes of algae problems? So, I need to increase my nitrates? Pardon me for a moment while my brain explodes...
    No, algae actually consumes nitrates...high nitrate levels are the result of not enough/not big enough water changes
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