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  1. Default Substrate Change..


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    So, as you can see from the title, I'm going to be changing my substrate this upcoming weekend. I'll be changing it to some plain old pool filter sand from my black+white gravel, as I honestly love that look a lot more. I'll be putting my plants in the substrate, and will be providing root tabs and ferts for them.

    My question is this. I dont really want to completely dismantle the tank and take every single ounce of water out of it to change the substrate unless I absolutely have to (as I dont have a python, so its a very laborious task to even do a water change), so can I pour the sand directly into the water and allow it to settle (removing my filter to a bucket of old tank water of course), or would it just stay cloudy and never really settle?

    As I said, I'll absolutely remove every bit if I need to. Just would prefer not to. lol
    Not much to say when you're high above the muckey-muck.

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    Pool filter sand is pre-washed and washed well so that won't cloud.

    Pouring it in over the old substrate will make a thick layer where old bits of gravel will work themselves up to the surface over time.

    A 20g isn't big, assuming it's on a stand you could easily syphon it out with a bit of garden hose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talldutchie View Post
    Pool filter sand is pre-washed and washed well so that won't cloud.
    Not over here..... PFS will cloud the water just like anything else if you don't wash it. "Prewashed" is a joke in my experience, but I've only got like 300 lbs of it in my tanks.
    125 - BGK, pictus cats, silver dollars, kissing gouramis, palmas bichir, delhezi bichir
    125 - Red severum, bolivian rams, Turquoise rainbows, irian red rainbows, loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, pearl gouramis
    90 - Congo tetras, african knife, elephant nose, spotted ctenopoma, upside down cats

    QTs - 29, 20H, 20L, 10

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    You're the first person to tell me that. OVer here people either buy builder's or paving sand at 2 euros a bag and spend an hour or so rinsing it or the pay 12 euros a bag for pool filter and can dump it in without any action.

    So, there's different kinds then.

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    I won't be the last. I've used 3 different brands and they've all been quite dirty. Perhaps they do a better job in Europe with their "prewashing". Here, prewashed means no debris....still plenty of dust though.

    If you want something done right, do it yourself.
    125 - BGK, pictus cats, silver dollars, kissing gouramis, palmas bichir, delhezi bichir
    125 - Red severum, bolivian rams, Turquoise rainbows, irian red rainbows, loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, pearl gouramis
    90 - Congo tetras, african knife, elephant nose, spotted ctenopoma, upside down cats

    QTs - 29, 20H, 20L, 10

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    Default Substrate Change..


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    I did a sand washing tutorial on another forum. A "wash" consists of filling the bucket with water and simultaneously swirling my hand so that the sand gets suspended. Once the water reached the top I stopped, waited a few seconds and then poured out the water. That's A wash.

    3rd.jpg
    This is after 3 washes

    5th.jpg

    5 washes

    7th.jpg

    7 washes...starting to get clear

    sand.jpg

    this was all the sand I was washing

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    and the fruits of my labor
    Last edited by jaysee; 08-26-2014 at 01:15 PM.
    125 - BGK, pictus cats, silver dollars, kissing gouramis, palmas bichir, delhezi bichir
    125 - Red severum, bolivian rams, Turquoise rainbows, irian red rainbows, loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, pearl gouramis
    90 - Congo tetras, african knife, elephant nose, spotted ctenopoma, upside down cats

    QTs - 29, 20H, 20L, 10

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    That's clean, well worth the effort I'd say.

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    I want my sand so clean that I can stir it up and the water is still clear. Does it NEED to be that clean to use it? No. But since I'm already cleaning it, I might as well do the job completely is how I look at it.

    In my opinion it's good to give sand a preliminary wash to see what you're working with before fully committing to it.
    125 - BGK, pictus cats, silver dollars, kissing gouramis, palmas bichir, delhezi bichir
    125 - Red severum, bolivian rams, Turquoise rainbows, irian red rainbows, loaches (angelicus, zebra, kuhli and horseface), plecos (BN, RL and clown), denison barbs, pearl gouramis
    90 - Congo tetras, african knife, elephant nose, spotted ctenopoma, upside down cats

    QTs - 29, 20H, 20L, 10

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    Well I can attest to how clean your tank is, the moss you sent to me was clean, and didn't even have an odor to it after, even after spending 4 days in the postal system before delivered to me, again thanks for moss, AL10 also very appreciative.

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    Thanks for the help guys. Appreciate it as always!


    Quote Originally Posted by talldutchie View Post
    Pool filter sand is pre-washed and washed well so that won't cloud.

    Pouring it in over the old substrate will make a thick layer where old bits of gravel will work themselves up to the surface over time.

    A 20g isn't big, assuming it's on a stand you could easily syphon it out with a bit of garden hose.
    So I can just drop it in, dont have to remove all the water to put the sand in right?

    And Jaysee, I'll more than likely give it a real good wash before I use it. I'm getting a 50lb bag for a little over 3 bucks, and what I dont use will either be stocked for other tanks or for my nephews sand box! haha. Thank you for posting the tutorial for me. I wouldve hated to see my water that cloudy had I not washed it first!
    Not much to say when you're high above the muckey-muck.

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