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    Quote Originally Posted by aquariumsandfishingFL View Post
    I did plenty of research before getting any of my fish if not I'm sure they would have been long gone by now and I do extensive tank cleanings such as adding fresh water almost daily as well as water changes and filter cleanouts just as often and to be honest they've done a ton better then the fish store I got them from
    If you did plenty of research you would know that discus require to be kept in a minimum school of five not two

    Changing 20% of the water every two weeks is not considered extensive for discus it does not even meet the least minimum requirement. Please refer to your own post #3 for that information.

    If you've had the fish in your tank for 6 months and they are that small now they must have been the size of a half dollar when you got them, would really love to see a picture when you got them, I'm sure you took a few at the least being new and all.
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    Frankly, I question the "research" that resulted in not knowing what many of the fish you keep even are.

    Cichlids and discus aside, I know a bit about tetras, and they should never be kept in "pairs"...and at 84 degrees F?

    If you've no clue about the importance of testing water params ("and how do you test nitrates."), then I seriously doubt you have done any type of even basic research for proper fishkeeping
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    The Africans are the ones I don't really know about and o would have more but at 50 each is the cheapest they are around here its not exactly easy to get that many and well I've had all the fish in there for a while with no problems they all seem healthy but if you insist so be it I haven't had a fish die in a long time

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    AquariumsandfishingFL, try not to become defensive. Everyone who is posting in this thread is trying to help you and ensure you are going to become a very long term and successful hobbyist. The information offered is based on members many may years of experience.
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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    Cliff is right. From your perspective I'm sure it seems that we've come down pretty hard on you but our intentions are to help. It's clear that you are making attempts to set up good tanks for your fish, but the truth is, you need to make some major changes very soon - especially in the 40 (and yes, you have stated that you plan to make changes) or you will lose the discus and many more.

    Your tetras should be in schools of 6 minimum - that's six of the regular and 6 of the long fin. Before you decide to move them with the discus, you should check to see if they are fin nippers. If so, they should probably go back to the store as they will soon start nipping the discus fins (same with the angel fins)
    The cory should also be in schools of 6 min (all the same type)

    The angels MAY do alright in the 40 once you move the discus to a 55 but angels become more and more aggressive as they reach maturity and you can expect fights, wounds, and possibly death. Multiple angels can be kept together but you need a much larger tank with line of sight barriers (like tall plants, driftwood formations etc) for them to hide behind when things get ugly. A mated pair of angels would be perfect for the 40 but unless you know that you have a mated pair, the 2 of them may also fight.

    You already know that you need to get the BGK out of there asap as well as your other two large fish - the sooner the better.

    What kind of pleco is that? If it's a common, it's going to get HUGE and you'll want to move it to your pond as well.

    The ram should be okay with the angels. He'd really like a cave of some kind to call his own.

    I can't remember what all else you have in there but, again, do some profile checking to see if they're compatible with either the angels in the 40 or the discus in the 55.

    And do increase your water changes to 30% weekly. (even more often for the discus) Good water quality is key for long term fish health and survival

    You've been given great info on care of discus so I won't go there.

    Your African tank: nice driftwood! They also like rock formations to hide in - I'd add a bunch of rock for them. I'm not an African keeper but I do know that with Africans you can overstock to some degree to keep the aggression down - sort of spreading it out so one fish doesn't get picked on more than another. Also SOME Africans require hard water and high pH - as in around 8 or 8.2. You should also check your pH and see what you're dealing with.

    Once again, research is key but so is clean water so checking your nitrate level which you want to keep under 20ppm for your africans and under 10 for the discus is critical. Also - the Discus will do well in 84F but most of the others would be much better off in water around 78F. Again - there may be some that can tolerate the higher temp - I haven't researched all of your stock - but generally speaking that's way too high for most fish.

    Good luck and hope this helps
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    Why is JudiJetsons' post # 21 showing 'thumbs down' when both were 'thumbs up', or certainly intended to be ?
    Cliff ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by discuspaul View Post
    Why is JudiJetsons' post # 21 showing 'thumbs down' when both were 'thumbs up' ?
    Cliff ?
    They don't. When you click the green button it turns red to indicate that you can click it and it will take the thumb up away. But as it stands they are both thumbs up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by discuspaul View Post
    Why is JudiJetsons' post # 21 showing 'thumbs down' when both were 'thumbs up', or certainly intended to be ?
    Cliff ?
    Actually, there is something wrong there. Slap had given her a thumbs up. then I gave her a thumbs up but (thanks to you pointing it out just now ) I see that it switched to red and showed 2 thumbs down. I just now removed my click and it changed to 1 green thumbs up. I tried to give her a thumbs up again and again, it switched to red, thumbs down. so I removed it again.
    Something's not registering right in the system. Because the same thing just happened when I tried to give you a thumbs up. It switched to 2 red thumbs down. Anyone else want to try to add a thumbs up to Judi or DiscusPaul's post? Just to see if this is happening to everyone or if it's just me???
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    Like fishmommie said, I know it sounds like we're badgering you, but look at it this way. If we said nothing and you came back and said all your fish died, how would you feel if we then said "yeah we knew that would happen." You wouldn't be too happy that we could have helped prevent that from happening. We just want all fish keepers to be able to properly care for the their fish in order to get the very best from them. Health of the fish is absolutely priority number one, but also, those fish are expensive! You would want to do everything you could to keep them alive.
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    @Cindy, RE: thumbs....No, it's acting like it always has, which is confusing in itself...right now, it's showing red to you AND me, because it's indicating to us that if we want to remove our thumbs up, clicking "red" will do it.

    The number "2" indicated 2 thumbs up, regardless of the color red or the icon showing thumbs down.

    The numerical digit is always positive, not negative.
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