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    I have become very fed up with smaller fish sourced locally which are so sickly they always perish despite rounds of medications and QT. Thus my near fishless SeaClear 50G needs an overhaul. I want it to remain a high tech planted and look as such. However in my current focus I want to go to keeping pretty much only cichlids and bottom dwellers. I am just over small fish at this point and want some sort of bruiser cichlid living in a fu-fu planted tank

    Now...I am kind of at a crossroad in terms of which to select as I dont want it to destroy the tank. I have narrowed my list down to an Electric blue Jack...or a Green Terror(SA I know). The remaining fish I honestly dont care if they in time become lunch so that is of no concern. Now the real question which fish would work best with plants. I have no real delicate plants...swords, anubias, crypts, hygro, apons. I also may add a 7-8" Syno for a tank mate later on.

    Also open to other cichlid suggestions. I have heard of both of the species mentioned working with plants...however some first hand experience or opinions on the issue would be awesome.
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    Sounds like a major overhaul :o)
    I have no experience with green terrors. But I've had my EBJD for close to 2 years now (raised him from a baby). Over the past year I've gradually added more and more plants to my 90. As of yet, I haven't seen him bother any of them.

    If you go with an EBJD, you might want to check this guy out.

    Name is Rick Coy. He breeds nothing but ebjds. His fish are spectacular. If my baby hadn't made it, I'd have ordered one from him in a heartbeat.
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    An idea that may be cool is to add non-herbivorous africans... Like Venustus or Anchor Islands... They go great with synodontis too...

    Electric blue jack would be super cool too. Ive never had an issue with them tearing up plants. Then again, my geos didnt tear up stuff either but i have a feeling its cuase i capped the sand with gravel just around the stems so the geos rather sift the sand...

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    Not really interested in africans...just never really cared for them. I have tried to keep them over the years for "something different" just never could get into them.

    Yeah Ive just had growing dissatisfaction with my current tanks and the fact my ankle injury has kept me from pursuing completing my fish room in a timely fashion has not helped. I have always wanted an EBJD but their death rate has always just made me not want to bother with them. However their slightly smaller size and calm demeanor make them a good choice for a solo tenant in a 3ft planted. Now GTs are something else I have always wanted to keep and have seen a few on youtube living in planted tanks.
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    I love my EBJD. He is nearly 8" and prolly full grown after 13 months. He does uproot some plastic plants if I put them where he does not like. I've tied several java ferns to my DW and sometimes some of them come unlodged due to his finnage and thrusts, but I have not seen him deliberately pulling on them.
    The issues with their fragility are in the past IMO. They are definitely calmer than reg JDs which I kept in the past. I want more EBJDs.
    Otherwise, Keyhole Ciclids would do great in a planted tank

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCHRKiller View Post
    I have always wanted an EBJD but their death rate has always just made me not want to bother with them. However their slightly smaller size and calm demeanor make them a good choice for a solo tenant in a 3ft planted.
    Sorry your ankle is still giving you trouble.
    I did not know about the EBJD death rate until after I had mine. I will say, that when I first got him he was so small he couldn't or wouldn't compete with the other cichlids in my community tank. I removed him from that tank within a month and put him in a smaller one with some tetras and he really came into his own then. I left him there for about 6 months or until he was around 3 inches - which I had been told was the magic size, as in, if you got them to that size, they most likely would get past their intestinal issues that often killed them.
    He's healthy as can be now.
    The guy with the EBJDs in the video says he has eliminated that problem within his select breeding line.
    If you go that route, I really think he'd be worth checking out.
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    Salvinis do well in a planted tank as well as most geos.
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    I had actually considered Salvini...however I am kind of planning them for an up and coming overhaul of my 56G column as the smaller Sals would be a better fit

    Do you know how to source a EB from Rick Coy? I have done a search on google and cannot find any information. I have however considered ordering one from Imperial Tropicals...can get a 1.5" EB shipped for $30.

    I am leaning more toward the EB as I have found many more success stories of them being housed with plants successfully...my tank is also fairly open due to half of the front being a rock garden of anubias...only the back is/will be full of plant growth.
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