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    Hi guys im matthew, ive recently purchased a betta fish and his fins are starting to rip/tear, as i can see there is no fungus around the tips of his fins so i didnt think it was fin rot, hes in a 54 litre tank, ammonia is 0, ph 7, nitrates etc 0 and temp is 26 celsius and i do regular water changes adding aquarium salt as instructed on packaging. I have power filter on its lowest setting and recently removed all artifical plants and turned off air stone but power filter is interpet pf1 and bubbbles to produce oxygen. His tank mates are a plec,bristle nosed catfish and 3 khuli loach. I feed him tetra betta food and also have blood worm for treat. But still fins are getting worse. I tried taking pics but hes always on the move. And help would be great.uploadfromtaptalk1403523602603.jpguploadfromtaptalk1403523627936.jpguploadfromtaptalk1403523638772.jpg
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    First, stop using salt with the catfish and loaches in the tank. Your betta may be bored, or the other fish stressing him, so he is nipping his own fins. It might also be a nutritional problem. Try feeding him a better quality food for a while. In the meantime, while his fins heal up, keep doing 50% water changes to prevent infection. You might want to add some live plants for him to explore and hide in as well.
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    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
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    Your water parameters are quite unusual. In a cycled tank that isn't heavily planted, there always are some detectable nitrates. Considering that this is a recent acquisition (how long ago, exactly?) I suspect that it isn't cycled and the fish are experiencing water quality issues.
    There are cycling instructions in the beginner's forum that I would recommend you look at.

    PS: I recommend you review your stocking as well. Only the betta is really suited to life in a 54 liter tank. The "plec" which I presume is a common pleco may exceed a foot and requires a 250+ liter tank.
    Both the bristlenose and the kuhli loach need a tank 80 liters or more, and the loaches also need a group of 6+ individuals.
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    great advice from Mommy1 and Madagascar and both are spot on. Your pleco and loaches cannot handle the salt.
    do those 50% W/C that she suggested daily. clean water is the best cure for damaged fins.
    set something bright and shiny or colorful beside the tank (a potato chip bag or greeting card) to distract the betta and give him something to focus. move it around a few times a day and change it out for something different every once in a while. As mommy1 said, bettas get bored easily and in a basically empty tank, he has nothing to entertain or occupy him.

    And again - that tank is grossly overstocked and most likely not cycled. If you just set it up, see if you can return the pleco and loaches then try them again when you can get a tank the proper size.
    good luck!
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    It may be fin melt but what ever I would treat with api betta fix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aquariumlover10 View Post
    It may be fin melt but what ever I would treat with api betta fix.
    The betta fix may or may not help but shouldn't hurt. I'd first get those larger fish out of there and get on those daily W/C.
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
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    Thanks for advice guys, my tank as been setup for 2yrs but ive had cold water fish previous and decided to go tropical 4 weeks ago. I use api 5 in 1 test strip and have ammonia test kit, my friend is taking the khuli loach as he has bigger tank. I will get pic of 5 in 1 test results. I use interpet bioactive tap safe for when water changes
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    Uhhhhhh no clue about parremeters but those should both be 0 by now
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