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    Default Eheim Substrat Pro VS Bio Balls / Ceramic Rings


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    I recently replaced my Marineland C360 with a Eheim ECCO 80 (2236) on a 55g cichlid tank. I used my old media, bio balls and ceramic rings, in the ECCO when setting it up but was wondering if the substrat pro would be better. If so why and is there any negative side to it? The filter came with enough to fill all three media baskets with the stuff. Currently I have two filled with ceramic rings and another with bio balls.

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    I've never used the stuff, but I don't see why it would be noticeably better. Ceramic rings are tried and true.
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    From what I have read, both are good media to grow bacteria on. I only have experience with the ceramic rings. Ceramic rings are the only biological filter media that I use in my tank and I have great results with it.
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    Substrate pro is just as good as ceramic rings. It is made of sintered glass like most ceramic rings. I have found no difference in efficiency between either one.

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    No-name ceramic rings tend to have somewhat less micro pores than the more modern media like SubstratPro. So the latter will be more effective.

    Does this mean you need to upgrade? Not necessarily. if you get good water values then I wouldn't. If you're struggling then a phased replacement can be worth trying. If you're starting new I'd certainly use some of the modern high end media on the market now like Eheim or JBL if you're in Europe or Seachem Matrix if you're in North America.

    Ceramic rings still have a place in a filter. I've included a handful after the first sponge because they're quite decent to trap particles and provide more bacteria room than the plastic balls.

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    Fluval ceramic rings for me, nothing else is needed in my tanks' filters, bio media-wise
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    Thanks everyone! I guess I will take out the bio balls and put in the substrate. I've never had any ammonia or nitrite in my tank but was reading that the bio balls are better for trickle filters and not so much canister filters. Probably the lack of issues is due to a low fish population with a filter rated for a larger tank so it probably doesn't really matter. I have a PH of 7.5, I assume this substrat stuff won't change that.

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    No, these are chemically inert so pH and GH will not be affected

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