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    Alright everyone, starting my first journal here. I've posted in a few places concerning a river tank with manifold system and I'm about ready to start her up.

    First thing I have to do is build the stand. I should be getting the lumber either today or tomorrow.

    This will be in a 40 gallon breeder and I'll be running two Aquaclear 50s in the system. I'm going to try and do something different with the manifold system. Everything I've read indicates that most people who build this type of system add an additional filter to increase filtration and bio media since most manifold systems rely on just two or more sponge filters. I don't want to do this. So I've come up with a design I'm going to post when I get the chance. Basically the intake area will not have the typical sponges around the intake pipes. I'm going to lay the pipes on the bottom and cover with a layer of bio media, and two filter pads and put a barrier between this and the rest of the substrate to keep the sand out. It'll make more sense once you see my plans. If you think you can shoot holes in my idea, please do, I want to do this correct the first time. I will do a little RnD before getting it fish ready.

    Now onto fish.

    Going to go with traditional hillstream loaches, though not sure what kinds. Depends on what this new LFS can get me.

    I posted in fish compatibility on what kind of upper level fish would work and there were quite a lot of suggestions. This was tough because I was hoping to break the norm and stay away from White Clouds. I like them, I just wanted to do something different. My difficulty is getting a fish that liked a fast current and temperate water. I think I'm going to shoot for 70 degrees so not entirely a cold tank. Rainbows, congo tetras, rasboras ssp, denison barbs, odessa barbs, ruby barbs were suggested. Just to name a few. Right now I'm eyeing the Scissortail Rasboras. Thoughts? Suggestions?
    Increasing your biodiversity increases your stability.

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    This will be fun to watch, I'm subscribed!
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    No suggestions for you but I'll be watching this journal too - I've always liked hillstreams but didn't keep them due to the tank setup they'd be most happy with...it will be great to see a tank built around them.
    20gal long planted community

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    Ok, here is my idea. Depending on how it pulls water through all that media, I hope to be able to put a few rocks on top to break it up and make it less visible.


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    Interesting. Always wanted to do one of these.

    Hmm.. have you considered rubberlip aka Chaetostoma pleco? That's a riverine species that's hardly ever done in a river setup. PErhaps add Buenos Aires Tetra?

    If you want to stay in Asia try to find Rasbora rasbora for the upper levels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Compass View Post
    Ok, here is my idea. Depending on how it pulls water through all that media, I hope to be able to put a few rocks on top to break it up and make it less visible.


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    I doubt that one. The intakes in the gravel will be prone to blocking and it will be a weird flow for the bottom dwellers. I'd stick with a more traditional approach. http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...t.php?sid=4922 for example

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    I have considered the rubber lip as I rather like that pleco. I might very well add him to the list as I'm not terribly concerned with keeping this in Asia, so to speak. Do you think there would be any aggression from the rubber lip? I know plecos can get that way with each other and since the hillstream loaches look very much like plecos maybe he'd go after them? There will be plenty of hiding spots and caves and what not. I should be able to produce enough algae for bot types of fish to at least be fed properly.
    Increasing your biodiversity increases your stability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talldutchie View Post
    I doubt that one. The intakes in the gravel will be prone to blocking and it will be a weird flow for the bottom dwellers. I'd stick with a more traditional approach. http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u...t.php?sid=4922 for example

    Hmmmm I see your point. I'll probably still run a test before gluing all the pipe together just to sate my curiosity, but I didn't think about it changing to flow that much.
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    There will be aggression since these fish are territorial. However their territories are quite small and if you provide plenty of shelter and boundaries it should not be a problem.

    Might be one tank where you need to break the rule of not keeping the lights on too long.

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    Haha, oh yeah. It'll be in a sun room so I'm not worried about low algae levels. I get the best of both worlds. Lots of algae growth, but the room is north facing so it isn't going to heat up as much. I've done some test and it stays cool enough.
    Increasing your biodiversity increases your stability.

    You know what this tank needs? ........................ Crypts.

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