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  1. Default Ammonia in brand new water is at 0.5. What should I do?


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    I decided to test my new water before adding fish for giggles and it is reading 0.5 for ammonia. I just tested my tap water and it is at 0.5 for ammonia. SO that obviously must be the problem.

    What should I do? Add distilled water?

    The only thing I've put in it is Seachem Prime.

    The old (uncycled) tank my fish are currently in, for over a week, is at 0.5 for ammonia. Which makes sense because there are fish in it.. But it also doesn't make sense because if that is the ammonia level of my tap water it should be much higher.

    Help! I'm off to the store now before they close in 20. Will check my phone!
    Last edited by KingFisher; 04-20-2014 at 03:52 AM. Reason: language

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    Use Prime, it will detoxify that ammonia for 24-48 hours. Once the tank is cycled that is long enough for the bio-filter to convert that much ammonia.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mommy1 View Post
    Use Prime, it will detoxify that ammonia for 24-48 hours. Once the tank is cycled that is long enough for the bio-filter to convert that much ammonia.
    I've got prime in there currently. I used it to dechlorinate. Should I put more in? What about after 24 hours? The tank isn't going to cycle in 24 hours? I think I'm misunderstanding you. Because my old tank still hasn't cycled. I'm transferring them from an uncycled tank to a bigger uncycled tank. I'm doing my cycle with fish, unfortunately.

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    Can't give you any more rep, but well said! - steeler58 Thank again!! You seem to enjoy your coffee. - steeler58 Thanks for the rep!! - Compass this doesnt look like pie... not the right kind.. - Sandz for providing solid guidance to others - RiversGirl 
    Thanks for the rep! :) - Compass cheers - Fishhook Using up my winnings on my friends! - Compass No Message - Fishhook beeeeeeeer! - Sandz 
    Bottoms up! (even though you don't drink, lol) - Slaphppy7 We miss you... - Compass thank you for the filter! - RiversGirl for the fun game! - SeaLady Thank you very very much!! - Compass 
    Love the games. Thank you :) - rebecca_finny TGIF! - showmebutterfly Thanks for your help & points. - metweezer Nice to see you around again. enjoy the pie - fishmommie Thanks! :) I try! - Compass 

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    If I remember correctly, you are cycling your tank with fish. Since there are fish in an uncycled tank you should be changing water at least once each 24 hours and adding Prime with each water change. At the level of ammonia you have in your tank, Prime will keep it detoxified between water changes. Once the tank is fully cycled, Prime will keep the ammonia non-toxic long enough for the bacteria to convert it over to nitrites then nitrates.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    I just talked to a guppy breeder and now I'm confused again. He says no prime because it starts the cycle to day one. He said to not touch my water or anything for 30 days. But that doesn't make sense to me. He said prime gets rid of ammonia but I know it doesn't. It detoxes it. Agh!

    I think he's under the impression that it removes all ammonia. So the bacteria has nothing to to after.

    I haven't done any water changes on my other tank and the ammonia is at 0.5 as well. And no nitrites. And some nitrates.

    I understand the whole cycle, but I don't understand my tanks. Ones been going with fish for over a week with no changes. It's at the original tap ammonia level. And this new one is just set up and it's got the same ammonia as the other one!

    I'm going bonkers!

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    The guppy breeder is wrong. I've said it before and I will say it again. Just because someone is a breeder does not mean they know much about fish nor does it mean they keep them in proper conditions and fish will breed in improper conditions, especially livebearers. Prime does not remove ammonia it simply makes it nontoxic for a short time.

    As for your tanks, every tank and every cycle is different. Sometimes there are no clear cut answers to why the cycle is going the way it is going. The basics however never change. If your water company treats the water you need to dechlorinate, water needs to be changed, sometimes more than twice a day.

    I'm wondering if your ammonia testers are defective or maybe you are reading/doing the tests wrong. If you are still out, why not buy a small bottle of water and do an ammonia test on it and see what the reading is?
    Last edited by mommy1; 04-20-2014 at 04:41 AM.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mommy1 View Post
    The guppy breeder is wrong. I've said it before and I will say it again. Just because someone is a breeder does not mean they know much about fish nor does it mean they keep them in proper conditions and fish will breed in improper conditions, especially livebearers. Prime does not remove ammonia it simply makes it nontoxic for a short time.

    As for your tanks, every tank and every cycle is different. Sometimes there are no clear cut answers to why the cycle is going the way it is going. The basics however never change. If your water company treats the water you need to dechlorinate, water needs to be changed, sometimes more than twice a day.

    I'm wondering if your ammonia testers are defective or maybe you are reading/doing the tests wrong. If you are still out, why not buy a small bottle of water and do an ammonia test on it and see what the reading is?
    We tested a bottle of spring water, because we thought maybe the kit was defective, and it tested at 0. I tested our smaller tank and today it's closer to 1 than 0.5. Which is good timing I guess. Because we want to put them in the new tank. But would it be better to start them in water that's at 0 ammonia? Or should I keep doing changes of 0.5 water with prime?

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    Put them in the bigger tank and keep doing the 50% water changes with Prime.

    How soon after a water change are you testing? You should give the water enough time to cycle through the filter several times before testing. I usually advise to wait 2-3 hours after a water change to test.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mommy1 View Post
    Put them in the bigger tank and keep doing the 50% water changes with Prime.

    How soon after a water change are you testing? You should give the water enough time to cycle through the filter several times before testing. I usually advise to wait 2-3 hours after a water change to test.
    Water has been cycling for 48 hours prior to test. It is just so mind boggling.

    But we figured something out. Tetras are in there now along with half the old gravel and an old decoration.

    Tomorrow the guppies will get moved!

    We are just biting the bullet and going for it. We've been putting the move off for 2 days to try figure it all out. We are taking bits of advice from everywhere to see what makes sense. I'll keep everyone updated. We've got plenty of Prime to get us through!

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    Can't give you any more rep, but well said! - steeler58 Thank again!! You seem to enjoy your coffee. - steeler58 Thanks for the rep!! - Compass this doesnt look like pie... not the right kind.. - Sandz for providing solid guidance to others - RiversGirl 
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    Bottoms up! (even though you don't drink, lol) - Slaphppy7 We miss you... - Compass thank you for the filter! - RiversGirl for the fun game! - SeaLady Thank you very very much!! - Compass 
    Love the games. Thank you :) - rebecca_finny TGIF! - showmebutterfly Thanks for your help & points. - metweezer Nice to see you around again. enjoy the pie - fishmommie Thanks! :) I try! - Compass 

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    You should be testing everyday because your tank is cycling with fish. You may not need to change water everyday, but then again, you may need to change it twice a day. You will not know this unless you check daily. Once the tank has been fully cycled for a few weeks you can stop daily testing and test once a week.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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