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  1. Default feeling defeated...


    0 Not allowed!
    Today i was doing a small water change... well that was my plan...

    saturday i did a large wc... and spent almost 2 hours picking snails off of every surface and discarding them...

    I have seen maybe one here and there since... huge change in how its been...

    so back to today... i am doing a small water change and although i checked my filters saturday i decided to check them again today only more thoroughly. Devi stated isn't even the word... my bio things were crawling with them... they were stuck inside the sponge... so i rinsed one pack of bio things and tried to pick them out of the sponge and the other bio thing. I didnt want to rinse everything and trigger a mini cycle.

    Then i remembered i had planned on using one of the bio packets to help kick start the BB in my 40gb. Hubby is almost done building the stand and I've ordered the substrate and had planned on buying the plants saturday. then i started thinking... buying live plants is what started this all... my 40b i plan to heavily plant... I decided to just cycle new filter media to not risk snails but what's the point if they will come with plants? I am still hoping to find assassin snails but ... bleh...

    feeling like i left the house in my favorite outfit (and early!) only to be ambushed by my brother and his paintball gun just before I get into my car..
    65g: 12 Neon Tetras, 12 Zebra Danios, 7 Panda Cory, 2 Honey Gourami, 2 Clown Plecos, 4 Bloodfin Tetra, 3 Whitecloud and some snail hitch hikers... *shakes her fist*

    40g breeder in the works. (too many directions to go.. can't decide)

    "Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time" Thomas A. Edison (i find this to be true in this hobby)

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    1 Not allowed!
    No need to get discouraged although I understand. Rinse those sponges and bio-things in tank water, you won't lose too much bacteria that way. If it's too bad you could buy more sponges and throw away the old ones. I know you are far from fish stores but you can buy plants online, I've had good luck with these guys, https://www.aquariumplants.com and there are several other places online with snail free plants.
    If worse comes to worse you are stuck with a fishless cycle from scratch. Not too bad really, when done correctly they only take 2-3 weeks.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    0 Not allowed!
    Do i have to alternate rinsing the sponges and bb filter things to keep from having a mini cycle and is it possible to wash them too much if you use aquarium water? Thats what I rinsed it in but i didn't do the sponge and a packet.

    I think I am def going to do the fishless cycle. I am moving the fish from my 65 to the 40 i think. this way i can plant and get the tank ready and then move them in instead of putting them in a bucket and doing the 65 and then moving them back. I also figured this way i can make the best set up for fish i already have. i hope it's a good idea. although the zebra danios might have to stay. i can't catch those things to save my life.

    I had looked at that site before and resigned myself to ordering online although the shipping is crazy... until we found a pretty awesome mom and pop store in anchorage that only handles fish. They have all of the things i've read to look for in a quality lfs but they have puffers (on snail patrol i suspect) with their plants.

    my hubby keeps telling me to just have artificial plants but... i really don't like them...

    Thanks so much for the support. i really appreciate it.
    65g: 12 Neon Tetras, 12 Zebra Danios, 7 Panda Cory, 2 Honey Gourami, 2 Clown Plecos, 4 Bloodfin Tetra, 3 Whitecloud and some snail hitch hikers... *shakes her fist*

    40g breeder in the works. (too many directions to go.. can't decide)

    "Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time" Thomas A. Edison (i find this to be true in this hobby)

  4. #4

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    What exactly is the problem? I don't think I understand.

    OK you got snails, so? IF they do bother you then wait another 6-8 weeks for the weather to improve and then order some assasins. In the mean time cut back on feeding a bit and set a few bottle traps.

    Which snail species is bothering you? Any idea?

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    my problem is thinking i have a handle on the snail population only to find out they're REALLY really good at hiding.

    I have both ramshorn and pond snails.

    they're eating my plants and i honestly figured i'd be able to start a new tank and not have to worry about snails in it but the reality of it hit me last night.

    i remember awhile back someone mentioned if you have plants you will have snails. not that i mind snails, there are a few varieties i'd enjoy having. i am just struggling with the hitch hikers i have now. to find them in such numbers in my filter was pretty discouraging.
    65g: 12 Neon Tetras, 12 Zebra Danios, 7 Panda Cory, 2 Honey Gourami, 2 Clown Plecos, 4 Bloodfin Tetra, 3 Whitecloud and some snail hitch hikers... *shakes her fist*

    40g breeder in the works. (too many directions to go.. can't decide)

    "Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time" Thomas A. Edison (i find this to be true in this hobby)

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    1 Not allowed!
    There are a few ways to ensure you don't get snails with your plants. If you order online, get the ones that come in gell packets. There are a few places that sell them, but they can be a bit higher in price. But they are grown in a sterile environment and I've never once had a snail on them. Now if you buy plants at your local fish store you can make them snail free yourself. Get a small pan and fill it with water. Add 10% bleach to the pan and dip the plants into the solution. Do not dip the roots. Just the leaves if you can help it. This will do two things. Kill any snail eggs that might be present, and kill any algae that might be brought in.
    Increasing your biodiversity increases your stability.

    You know what this tank needs? ........................ Crypts.

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    for giving a catfish its first taste of human. - cm12setx pizza for all.  I finished my book today!!! - fishmommie For being MOTM - steeler58 looking forward to more rapid river videos - showmebutterfly A little late, but congrats MOTM! - Slaphppy7 
    Congrats on 3,000 posts! - Slaphppy7 A Cory for Mr 3,000 - steeler58 you could be famous! - SeaLady For following through on a dare! - steeler58 For having a big heart and caring :) - steeler58 
    Have a cup of joe for the good converstion this morning :) - steeler58 T.G.I.F.! - Slaphppy7 T.G.I.F.! - Slaphppy7 for playing the cory game - cm12setx Congrats on 3,900, they don't have kuhliis, LOL - Slaphppy7 

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    0 Not allowed!
    Oh, just drip them in the solution for a few seconds, making sure all the leaves get a good dose. Then rinse off in the sink. Make sure you dip them in used tank water before putting them in your tank. Just as a final step to make sure all the chlorine is gone.
    Increasing your biodiversity increases your stability.

    You know what this tank needs? ........................ Crypts.

  8. #8

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    2 Not allowed!
    Nobody with snails is ever in control

    Like I said.
    1. Syphon away what you see
    2. Cut back a bit on the feeding
    3. Make a bottle trap out of an plastic soda bottle. Bait with some wilted lettuce or spinach (hot water for a few seconds). Set an hour before lights out and retrieve the next day. Repeat a few days in a row.

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    1 Not allowed!
    I've never had a snail problem, honestly.
    My 8 gallon shrimp nano tank has always had snails, and assassin snails havnt helped one bit. Since algae ended up becoming an issue, I threw 2 nerites in there, the glass became crystal clear within weeks, and the pond snails have very little to eat now. None have even reached a somewhat decent size before dying.

    But I have experienced the feeling of defeat to snails before, and it is horrible. Pond snails thrive in none of my tanks because I'm an extreme loach person and have gotten pretty fortunate with not having them.

    In your case, you could use @talldutchie's method, and also "hire" loaches. I've seen loaches completely wipe out snail populations in a matter of days, leaving nothing behind. Angelicus Botia for sure do the job very fast and convenient, and aren't as nearly expensive as dwarf chains. You would probably have to wait a certain amount of time to make sure eggs don't make it as well.

    For a long term approach, you could purchase 3-4 dwarf chain botia for your 65 gallon and sub them out temporarily, implying you have proper water conditions. Dwarf chains are one of the most expensive Botia, yet most convenient, sadly. They only reach 2 inches, have a much lower bioload than the average Botia, eat snails, and are less aggressive. Definitely one of the most suitable loach for a planted tank. I am going to purchase 6-8 of these for my 55 gallon since I want a good community loach and some snail control(as I've noticed some already). The average decent price for these is going to be in the range of $10-15, and if you can get them for any less you have a deal. I'm hoping a LFS near me is still selling 3 for $25, because most places sell them for $20 each.

    I'm not saying this is necessary, but just tossing out options. Good luck the snails, though.

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    That is an extremely bad idea! In general loaches and cories do not mix at all. Loaches and "plecos" is equally a bad idea. Fights are almost guaranteed and cories are frequently the first casualties.

    Personally I'm firmly opposed to this way of thinking. This got the clown loach firmly in most dealers tanks and it's also a weird reasoning behind putting dwarf puffers in community tanks.

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