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03-29-2014, 01:40 AM #1
13 gallon South Dakota tank
I couldn't find the thread I made earlier, so I'll start one in the right place this time
My 5g RCS tank became a home to my Mom's hansom betta, Court Jester:
And as for the shrimp...
j/k, they live here now:
And finally for the subject of this journal:
Tapwater reads 7.8 pH, 0 ppm ammonia, 0 ppm nitrite, 5 ppm nitrate, 10 dGH, (misplaced the KH kit in the move, oh well)
Substrate is a blend of gravel and playsand, with tupperware hills. The tupperware actually creates a void in the substrate, but I punched quite a few holds in it first (filled with water but not gravel/sand). Could any odd problems arise from this?
I'd love to hear any suggestions or tips for stocking (approximate dimensions are in my sig), planting, or hardscape additions and changes. :)
I got a board for the stand to sit on and play sand today, but I forgot ammonia, so I should be able to start the cycle tomorrow when I go to the next town over (they have an ACE).
I'm really excited!! Even though my place is chaos, nothing like some good aquarium therapy to help with a stressful move!
03-30-2014, 04:28 AM #2
I'm thinking of building the tank around a school of celestial pearl danios.
Plants will have to be pretty low light unless I upgrade, possibly to include the marineland hidden fixture or a DIY top with a completely new fixture. There are some LEDs included in the factory top, but I doubt that much will grow with them alone.
03-30-2014, 02:31 PM #3
So are my endlers LOL.
You could plant annubis, java fern, hygro, hornwort (a fast grower - and you can either float it or plant it. these are all low light plants. another fun plant for that tank would be a banana plant. it can also float free or you can plant it. mine shot of tons of lily pads that rose to the top.
have fun and keep the picts coming :o)30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
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Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492
04-03-2014, 07:34 PM #4
I got a nice amazon shipment in today, so I can get the cycle started in earnest. Included were: air check valves (better safe than sorry), AquaClear 20 foam, AquaClear 20 biomax, and DrTim's Ammonium Chloride. My relatively local Ace (12 miles down the road) didn't have any Ammonia, and the smallest they could get in was a 1g jug. I'm 45-60 miles away from any other towns and they're all in different directions, and I didn't feel like going on a scavenger hunt. I will keep you all posted with my results.
The aquarium came with an Aqueon quiet-flow 10. These come with a filter cartridge that is basically carbon in a flossy bag. Not my cup of tea at all. They also come with some sort of plastic "wet / dry bio media)" grille thing. I didn't throw it out but I'm not confident enough in it to not add more media. In the first pic you can see my first attempt at DIY media (a couple of cut scrubbing pads placed into the plastic "hanger" - note these are naturally brown, not "seasoned") as well as my second setup using aquaclear media. (Note: with the aquaclear media, there is not enough room for the hanger and scrubbing pads. I wasn't anticipating this but they don't seem necessary)
Water flows from the motor through a couple of hollow chambers, then through a vertical slit on the back left side of the media box. The two foam pads are stacked against the vertical slit, and the bio media sits to the right. Water passes both to the right and forward before flowing out. Flow through the bio media probably isn't the greatest, but I also have the hagen elite dual sponge filter so I'm not too concerned.
It looks like my pH is running between 7.4 and 8ppm. GH and KH are both around 10 dH. Right now I'm interested in having the celestial pearls and pygmy cories, but I'm not sure how well they will handle the higher pH. I might be better off looking at livebearers and cichlids..
Last edited by Zerileous; 04-03-2014 at 07:37 PM.
04-04-2014, 11:39 AM #5
Well it the DrTom's does appear to work, but it also seems to require much much more than indicated on the label. The label says 1 drop per gallon should lead to roughly 2 ppm. This is what I got after 79 drops.
I was worried about completely over dosing it, so I stopped and let it run overnight, but it really is only at about 2ppm. I wonder if there could be some excess prime in the water that buffered some of the ammonia. Though if that were the case I would think the first 13 drops would have done nothing and then once I exceeded the buffering capacity of the prime it would have shot up. The first set of drops did get me to somewhere between 0.25 and 0.5 ppm
04-04-2014, 12:02 PM #6
Dang, that's a lot of ammonia added for it to not show up on the test. Hmmm How long ago did you add Prime? It would usually effect water params for about 24 hours. As far as plants are concerned, I am partial to crypts. I currently have Cryptocoryne wendtii, balansae, and undulata. I like how the wendtii stays mid level, with thick leaf cover but lots of space between the stems. The CPDs would love swimming through that.Increasing your biodiversity increases your stability.
You know what this tank needs? ........................ Crypts.
04-04-2014, 03:15 PM #7
what part of SD are you in, if I remember you were out on the res.Current tanks:
37G FW - 3 Pearl Gourami, 4 Black Mollies, approximately 20+ Molly Fry, 5 Assassin Snails | 10G Planted FW - 14 Molly Fry, rocks, DW and an Anubias Nana - journal
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How to cycle without fishies!
04-04-2014, 03:22 PM #8
Use this calculator (scroll to the bottom) for ammonia dosing -
http://www.fishforums.net/aquarium-calculator.htmMy 75 gal Journal & My Dual 29 gal Journal
My 75 gal - Gold Pristella Tetras, Scissortail Rasboras, Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish, Longfin Leopard & Zebra Danios, Bristlenose Pleco
My Dual 29 gals - Left Tank - Diamond Tetras. Right Tank - Amano Shrimp
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04-04-2014, 03:35 PM #9Member Goldfish
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Hey Zerileous, I used Dr. Tim's for my cycle, and you basically have to double the dosage in the instructions. This is corroborated by reviews I've read online also. I think it's just labelled incorrectly.
04-04-2014, 04:03 PM #10Member Goldfish
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It could also be that many ammonia solutions are ammonioum hydroxide, while Dr. Tim's is ammonium chloride. Not a chemist so I have no idea. I tested with the API kit; perhaps a different test kit would have shown the results expected by the directions and I dosed high. But regardless, the cycle finished just fine.