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    It has been 1.5 years since I sold the last of my reef. I have the "itch" for a saltwater tank coming back again. This time I want a moderate size...nothing terribly hard to maintain. Thus I am thinking a 29G FOWLR...I DO NOT want the demands of a reef again. I would however like to enjoy all the critters and life live rock has to offer. I would be going with 30lbs of florida live rock, as I have purchased it in the past and been delighted by all of the starfish, sponges, feather dusters, macroalgae and etc. I also want a low stock...probably just a dwarf angelfish with perhaps 1 additional fish such as a single damsel.

    What equipment would you toss on this tank? I would probably do 10% weekly WCs but dont really want to invest in a RO unit for that small amount.
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    Maybe just a few power heads and a AquaC HOB skimmer. I would think a small HOB filter for some GFO and carbon would be a good idea as well.
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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    I had been debating on the use of a skimmer mainly...in my last reef I ran it skimmerless however used a refugium made out of an Aqua Clear 110. I still have the converted AC110, do you feel it would be over kill to do the skimmer and the AC?

    Also would you all suggest the Fugeray or the Ray II for lighting?
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    I like using skimmers for both filtration and they help to keep your oxygen levels a lot higher in the tank which also helps little with stabilizing the ph. Just my personal preference tho. If your using a AC110 as a HOB refugium on a smaller set-up like this, then the skimmer could very be a overkill and might out compete the refugium for nutrients. You could certainly do without one when using a good sized HOB refugium like that

    I have never used that brand of LEDs before, but I have read a lot of good thing about them. As your planning a FOWLR tank, I would not be too hesitant to try them.
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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    so how does that work to create a HoB filter into a refugium? I am a noob on SW but would love to make my next tank or one of the current ones if I were to ever redo it after having a lack of critters in it.

    I think I could get a decent small FOWLR setup in the 37 gallon or maybe a pico one in the 10 gallon
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    The mod is really simple, you pretty much just cut up the media basket and use silicone to attach it inside the filter. Use one of the side pieces to make a first compartment...I typically ran chemical media in this section. The next section I used LR rubble and chaeto. Simply put a small light on top of the AC on reverse daylight and youre set.

    Here is a photo found online of what I am talking about. Mine looks pretty much just like that although I used the other side piece directly in front of the impeller area to make a fixed media basket.

    Although I would rather have too little nutrients than too many...and the fact I am not using RO water may make the skimmer more necessary that I think at this point.
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    I don't see a photo...

    but a refugium correct me if I am wrong as I know nothing about it, is to keep a small chamber with out materials such as moss, live rock, etc on an opposite daylight time as the main tank to help keep nutrients and co2 down right? thus stabilizing the pH?
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    http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/at...1&d=1324919156

    Duh...sorry forgot the link.

    Yes that is basically all a refugium is.
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    so if you didn't have the protein skimmer you would basically have to make your water changes larger then to keep the nutrients down?
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    That will all depend on the bio-load and how much nutrients the refugium and the live rock can process
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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