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    My 30 gal has been up and running for 2 years now. I should have started a journal when I set up the tank but I was new and more concerned about getting the tank cycled than chronicling all of my mistakes :o)

    Now I want a photo record of all the 'looks' this tank has been through so I've selected a few photos to show it's evolution

    Clearly, this photo is NOT one of my fish. Apparently I marked one wrong and uploaded it. NOW I can't get it to delete. So -- BONUS shots. My cats. Meet Buddy and Sly. And yes, they are as lazy as they look
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    Last edited by fishmommie; 03-02-2014 at 03:44 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
    15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, assassin snails
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    Feb - 22012 - I set up the 30 in the kitchen on the island. I wanted the tank to be seen from the living room and sun room and dining area so it was open on all 4 sides. I had an aqueon 30 HOB. Here's the shot. gravel, fake plants, fake hard scape, 3 dwarf gourmai, 3 platy, 1 betta - told you, I was new and I listened to my LFS to help me stock. wrong.
    I cycled with the fish (thanks to the AC) - took 3 months but I didn't lose any.

    Whew. Right photo this time :o)
    1-buddy and fish flowers 032.JPG

    Another FTS a month or so later. I actually loved the tank with this hard scaping and artificial plants and knew that real plants were something I wasn't ready to try.
    1-fts 30 new 039.JPG
    Last edited by fishmommie; 03-02-2014 at 03:54 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
    15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, assassin snails
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    Is that Buddy looking at the tank!!! He's a knockout....looking forward to seeing all the pics!!

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    Here we are 10 months later. The betta now has it's own tank, The platies have been rehomed, 2 of the dw gouramis are in my 90 and one is still in the 30
    I've added 7 Colombian Tetras and 6 long fin serpae tetras + an albino baby bristle nose pleco and 6 cory cats. there are also apple snails in the tank.

    I've removed the fake driftwood and added 2 driftwood pieces. one is planted with a tiny bit of moss and java fern. In each front corner there are live plants - the kind that come in plastic tubes and are guaranteed snail free. they died after a few months.

    1-almost original 30 IMG_9925.JPG

    Oh - and I added the crock. Everyone loved to hide in that crock.
    1-dw g in crock 30 gal 077.JPG
    Last edited by fishmommie; 03-02-2014 at 04:08 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
    15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, assassin snails
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    In the spring of 2013 (almost a year after setting up the 30) my blue angel that was in the 90 got very sick. I had to put her in QT for 6 weeks and she hadn't eaten in 4 weeks by that time. I managed to bring her out of it (thanks to Indian Woods Angel's great advice) but when I added her back to the 90 she turned into a holy terror. She chased all the fish all the time. Clearly it wasn't working. so, I moved the Colombians and the Serpaes to the 90 and moved the angel to the 30
    here she is in July of 13. the tank is still only partially planted with the plants on the driftwood but I added a couple of moss balls. I THINK that's where I got the MTS - from the moss balls.
    angel in 30 evol 5 035.JPG

    In October I decided to take the plunge and fully plant the tank. I totally emptied the tank, removed all the gravel substrate and cleaned out the tank hoping to get rid of t he mts. then I put a fresh layer of gravel (that I'd washed in bleach then thoroughly rinsed) a layer of pool sand and a layer of flourite. I added back all the driftwood pieces, an additional piece of driftwood in the left corner. I planted some jungle val in the back in each corner, added an anubis on the new driftwood, planted one nice java fern (several were also growing on the other driftwood) and planted several wendti crypts.
    The val all melted and never came back. everything else continues to grow.
    1-newly planted 30 redo 031.JPG
    Last edited by fishmommie; 03-02-2014 at 04:21 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
    15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, assassin snails
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    Here you can see the tank a month or so after planting. one val is still struggling in the left back corner. Per (Sandz) sent me some hornwort (floating) and some java moss.
    I started dosing Seachems Flourish complete about this time, 1 day a week after water change
    1-shortly after planting30 gal 007.JPG

    Here you can not only see my little girl (baby P) has fallen asleep on her back, you can see the size of the wendti crypts when they were first planted.
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    Last edited by fishmommie; 03-02-2014 at 04:29 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
    15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, assassin snails
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    In the prior frame you saw the small krypts. Here they are 5 months later with weekly doses of Flourish complete.
    1-tall crypts corner30 004.JPG

    Here's a full tank shot from a side angle. It's a jungle out there. also - I have a photo background of roots and rocks that I plan to replace with black. Just haven't got in to pick up a black background yet. I think it adds to the feeling of disorganization.
    1-fts from side angle 020.JPG

    And here's a fts front angle. While I'm thrilled with the plant growth and the healthy tank, I'm not thrilled with how the tank is scaped. That piece of driftwood that is loaded with java ferns is an arching piece that the catfish live under. I've tried to reposition it several different ways but it's just large enough that it won't fit the way I might like it to.


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    Last edited by fishmommie; 03-02-2014 at 04:39 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
    15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, assassin snails
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    PS to above posts. I failed to mention that I added 6 zebra danios and 13 Harleys to the tank once the plants started filling out. the angel, while healthy was pretty sedate and I thought she needed some dithers. For the most part, she pays little attention to them.

    I also failed to mention that just before Christmas I moved the 30 from the kitchen counter to a stand in the living room. That's why I've got the ugly background. I didn't need on before and all I had on hand was this one.

    Yesterday I removed the 2 HOBs and installed a Rena (API Filstar) XPL rated for 45 gal. Based on some of the recs I received here, this filter should provide adequate filtration for my current stock - which I do not plan to change. The rena fits nicely in my 30 gal stand (without any alterations to the stand - Yea) I tossed ALL the soft media from my HOBs and filled the canister with 2 seeded bags of bio rings and added one new bag. So there is no mechanical filtration inside the canister. I added a prefilter sponge made from an AC110 sponge on the intake tube as my mechanical filtration. Fingers crossed this works.

    I'm still uncertain what direction I should have to outflow positioned in. Water 'waterfalled' out of both the HOB's that were on the tank. Now I have a heavier flow. Should the nozzle be pointed up or down or to the back wall of the tank? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Future plans for the tank:
    1) add a planter (using my empty HOB and filling it with Pothos and bamboo) The roots will set below the water line but the plants will grow above the water line. I may actually buy the plants today and get the planterset up. Thanks to Jenn (MCHRKiller) for this great idea. While I don't have a nitrate problem in this tank, as these plants feed off the nitrates in the water, I'm hoping the trates will be reduced even more.

    2) Replace the print background with black.

    3) accept ANY and ALL suggestions for rescaping this tank so it doesn't look so disorganized.
    Last edited by fishmommie; 03-02-2014 at 04:56 PM.
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
    15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, assassin snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://bit.ly/1vC7gVX
    fishless cycling: http://bit.ly/1DARf3T
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeboraBremner View Post
    Is that Buddy looking at the tank!!! He's a knockout....looking forward to seeing all the pics!!
    that's Buddy. He's a big lazy slug and it was really a chore for him to sit up and watch those fish :o)
    30 g FW planted:corys, female ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, rummies,
    15 g FW planted:2 male guppies, neons, pygmy corys, clown pleco, 4 types of shrimp, assassin snails
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    I like your tank...however if you are not satisfied with it change it. The tank has certainly came a long way since its initial start date. For me personally I would remove all of the plants from the wood and get back to the bare hardscape...look online at tanks you like and try to model the pieces you have after one of those tanks.

    I would flip that piece on the left so that its base is in the substrate and the "arms" are extending into the water column. Then I would place that smaller piece in the middle close to it and also allow it to be more vertical. The piece which is planted, I think you would be able to figure out a better placement for it with the plants removed. You can of course always re-plant them later. I would also suggest some background plants and a solid background.

    What is your lighting?

    I would be glad to donate some Hygro sp. Tiger if you like...it will grow in moderate+ lighting and does not require CO2. If you keep trimming it it does make a very lush full background over time.
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