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01-31-2014, 03:32 PM #1
Occupation of the ground floor
I have a group of kuhli loaches (I think 8) on the ground floor of my aquarium. Cherry shrimp and pygmy corydoras (currently 5 - going to get another 2 when I can) are also spending a fair amount of time down there ...
Would it become too crowded if I invite a group of panda corydoras (perhaps 6?) to stay with us? My friend has just bred a batch, they are the tiniest most adorable little fish - but of course they will grow! And they need a group...
Tank layout is like this. Substrate is now smooth pebbles at the front & black sand at the back (and obviously the white sand river). Hoping to grow a controlled jungle but plenty of swimming space remains.
... or would be too much ground floor occupation?
I am heading closer and closer to MTS!50g planted: 8x guppy/endler hybrids, 8x black neons, 8x kuhli loaches, 3x otos, 4x pygmy corys, 4x panda corys, 4x neons, Assassin snails + cherry & Amano shrimp
01-31-2014, 03:35 PM #2
01-31-2014, 03:36 PM #3
That is a gorgeous tank....
but I am not sure on the crowdyness of the bottom of the tank. But you do have a few bottom dwelling species already. Maybe it is time for the MTS to kick in sooner as they grow just a bit....Current tanks:
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01-31-2014, 03:43 PM #4
If I had the house space, I would have another tank already!
As it is, I am considering a nano tank, perhaps 30L, on my desk. With pretty plants and a betta and some shrimp and ...
Then I'll need another tank, ideally a shallow one with tons of surface area, full of corys and kuhlis and more corys ... I just love all those bottom dwellers.
I should say, the bottom of the tank, under the driftwood is all accessible - none of the driftwood is solidly on the floor, so there are tons of wooden "caves". The kuhlis love it ...
I might have to sit on my hands, *sad*.50g planted: 8x guppy/endler hybrids, 8x black neons, 8x kuhli loaches, 3x otos, 4x pygmy corys, 4x panda corys, 4x neons, Assassin snails + cherry & Amano shrimp
01-31-2014, 03:45 PM #5
Here's one of the pygmy corys.
It follows this endler hybrid around permanently. The other 4 pygmy corys hang out together low to mid-level, but this guy is always at the top, following this one same male endler ... Weird ...
50g planted: 8x guppy/endler hybrids, 8x black neons, 8x kuhli loaches, 3x otos, 4x pygmy corys, 4x panda corys, 4x neons, Assassin snails + cherry & Amano shrimp
01-31-2014, 03:50 PM #6
01-31-2014, 11:53 PM #7
I frankly dont think cories mind crowding much if at all, if you can keep up water quality. they are a very social species after all and from my experience with them, it seems they
would prefer more buddies over more space most times(avoiding extremes of course). as an example: I once had 6 pandas in a 20 gallon. now i currently have 12 zygatus in a 10 gal qt.
of course, I dont know what the fish are thinking, but from their behavior I can safely infer that the 12 zygatus are much more content than the 6 pandas. of course, the 12 zygatus would also be even happier with a 20 gallon, but that is not the point.
as long as you can keep water quality up, you could(and I certainly would) keep oodles and oodles of cories in there.
02-01-2014, 01:04 AM #8
It sure sounds like all the bottom dwellers "get along" now... if your nitrates tell you to get another tank...well....maybe you should get a small one? How the heck do you keep your substrate so neat...no matter how hard I try...when I vacuum it all seems to meld together...
02-01-2014, 02:20 PM #9
Substrate not a huge problem. The white sand gets chucked about a fair amount, but the boundary is fairly short so I can manually scoop it back where it should be. When I had only black sand it was more complex but with the black pebbles it's easy now as they are so heavy :)
02-06-2014, 10:42 PM #10
Well I decided it was now or never as I don't want to keep messing about with the tank -- as I keep horses and a large garden as well, as the nights gets shorter I will have less and less indoor time for the tank, so I need things to be running smoothly for spring and summer ... and that means stability beforehand!
Soooo 5 baby panda corys joined the gang a couple days ago. I am SO glad I decided to get them. I was concerned about crowding the ground floor as you know, but figured I can always sell them if it doesn't work, but omg within 24 hours the whole dynamic of the tank changed. The Otos seem to love them (normal? I saw 6 Otos yesterday - I thought I only had about 4 survivors!) and the pygmy corys have also become more bold. They get on great with the kuhlis and shrimp and I suddenly have a buzzing ground floor that doesn't look crowded at all. I think because all those species also climb about in the driftwood and java fern there is a lot "surface area" for them all. But they are all eating well and I am amazed by how much bolder all my little shy guys have turned. Panda cory enthusiasm is clearly infectious.
So that's it for my tank - stocking complete. Long may it last, happy healthy life to everyone! Oldest tank inhabitants are only about 2.5 years (neon tetras), so we are now at equilibrium. AqAdvisor says I am 93% stocked with the new additions so that leaves some guppy fry space.
(I am also massively overfiltered and heavily planted so probably have a fair bit of leeway).
LOVELOVELOVE the pandas!