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  1. Default New 10 Gallon Tank -- Fish Dieing


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    Hi I am new here. I had fish tanks previously with not this many problems. We started the kids with a 1 gallon tank a few months before Christmas to see how interested they were. They got a new 10 gallon tank for Christmas. I went to a local "Big Box" pet store. That may have been one mistake as I have read on various pages. I setup their new tank on Dec 25th and run it for about 4 days with just some fish food added. I was not testing water at this time. We then moved a snail and mickey mouse fish to their new tank. They seemed to do ok for a few days so we added 3 neon tetras. They died that night. I went back to the fish store and they suggested waiting a few days... after the fact. In the past week and half we have lost mickey mouse fish, snail and 2 shrimp. I started measuring water as suggested and have replaced 3 gallons of water daily for 3 days and seem to making progress on ammonia. I was doing weekly changes of 2 gallons before this. Nearing yellow color on test strips. I need to know where to go from here as the snail was a bout 5 days ago and shrimp have been past 2 nights.

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    If I am reading correctly I have:

    0 Nitrate
    0 to .25 Nitrite
    150 hardness
    300 alkalinity
    8.4 ph
    low 3 or less ammonia
    73 degrees F

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    What you experiencing is that your tank is trying to cycle. You have not grown enough bacteria that you need to eat the ammonia and nitrites which are toxic to fish. You need to cycle your tank. Letting your tank run for a few days will not do anything to cycle your tank

    If you have fish in there right now, complete at least a 75% (or about 8 gallon) water change as soon as you can, and don't forget to use a dechlorinater. Read the cycling with fish thread here (link below in my sig) for your next steps.

    If there are no fish or shrimp in your tank right now, you should complete a fishless cycle. There is also a link in my sig to a thread there that explains that as well
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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    3 ammonia is very high if it's 3ppm or parts per million. Test strips aren't very reliable and I suggest getting a good liquid test kit. Most here use API brand.

    It takes more than a few days to fully cycle a tank. Is there anything left in the tank, if yes do a big water change, either as close to 100% as you can or two 75% changes one right after another, then read this, http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

    If there are no fish or shrimp left then read this http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640

    Those links will answer most of your questions.
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    Upon further reading, there was some suggestions of a massive water change. After changing 8 of the 10 gallons, ammonia down to .5. The water temperature is staying at 73.

    Thanks for any further advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mommy1 View Post
    3 ammonia is very high if it's 3ppm or parts per million. Test strips aren't very reliable and I suggest getting a good liquid test kit. Most here use API brand.

    It takes more than a few days to fully cycle a tank. Is there anything left in the tank, if yes do a big water change, either as close to 100% as you can or two 75% changes one right after another, then read this, http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492



    If there are no fish or shrimp left then read this http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640

    Those links will answer most of your questions.

    Thanks for the advise. We had snow here today so going to store is not really an option. I just finished changing 8 of 10 gallons with some progress. I found a local small business that I might go check out this week for the liquid test. I might take a water sample to them also. Would another water change this evening overwhelm the 1 fish and shrimp that are left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff View Post
    What you experiencing is that your tank is trying to cycle. You have not grown enough bacteria that you need to eat the ammonia and nitrites which are toxic to fish. You need to cycle your tank. Letting your tank run for a few days will not do anything to cycle your tank

    If you have fish in there right now, complete at least a 75% (or about 8 gallon) water change as soon as you can, and don't forget to use a dechlorinater. Read the cycling with fish thread here (link below in my sig) for your next steps.

    If there are no fish or shrimp in your tank right now, you should complete a fishless cycle. There is also a link in my sig to a thread there that explains that as well
    Thanks just changed 8 gallons. Showing improvement

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    I would complete another larger water change to bring the ammonia down to (or below) 0.25ppm

    That would be less stressful on your shrimp& fish than being in water with higher ammonia levels.

    Also, as Mommy1 suggested, A liquid test kit would be best
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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    I would suggest reading and adhering to the cycling with fish (if any or left) or fishless cycling (no fish left) stickies that were provided to you above. Get an API master liquid test kit, shown here: http://www.amazon.com/API-Freshwater...aster+test+kit

    The kit is a necessity to properly check your water parameters, and will last you for many moths, if not longer. Be sure you are using a good dechlorinator, lots of us here use Seachems Prime, shown here: [url]http://www.amazon.com/Seachem-116043304-Prime-500ml/dp/B00025694O....you use very little of it to treat (1 ml/10 gallons), so it too will last you a very long time

    A medicine syringe is a great way to measure the Prime, or whatever dechlor you use...they are usually marked in ml increments, and can be found at pharmacies (sometimes for free) or dollar stores

    Good luck to you
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    Thanks will run another water change today. I noticed the filter is 90gph, I understand the filter should not be disturbed now. If I read correctly it is undersized? Should a 2nd more appropriate size filter be added in addition to the one I have been using? I also have an airstone running. I will check out the products suggested for chlorine and water testing at a local small business. Right now I am using topfin brand dechlorinator and test kits.

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    here is the link for the prime that slap tried to put a url for - Linky

    I use API Stress Coat myself mainly because that is what the LFS has but it is a similar product. I may pick up prime next time since it is fairly cheap on Amazon
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