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  1. Question I'm a Newbie with some Questions


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    Hello, I'm just getting started with aquaria and I'm excited to take part in such an interesting hobby. I have read several aquaria books so far, and I have a lot to learn. I'm happy to be a part of this forum now, too!

    I purchased this 15 gallon tall aquarium not too long ago. It is really nice but I wish I could have afforded to buy a larger, shorter tank. But oh well, I'm a broke college student.

    Anyways, I want to have some live plants in there and maybe a school of fish. So far I have an Amazon Sword (I know, this will bust my tank), as well as some Anubias.

    I have concerns over lighting and CO2. The light that was included with this aquarium seems not so great. I read this article about lighting, but it was pretty far above my head. I think(?) that I have a t5 fluorescent bulb, but I really have no idea. the label under the hood says "120volt 20watt 60hz", and on the bulb itself it says 8watt warm up. I am both not sure if this is sufficient for my current plants, and I also have concerns because my main goal for this tank is to plant some sort of carpet. I really want Dwarf Baby Tears but my lighting probably makes this out of the question.

    Anyways, what should I do about my lighting? I have no DIY skills and I don't really understand what bulbs I can plug into what outlet.

    As for CO2, what is your take on DIY CO2? As I said I'm broke, so I'm probably going to go with DIY.

    Photo Jan 04, 9 23 08 PM.jpg
    My current setup (above) includes the aforementioned tank, EcoComplete substrate, an Aqueon QuietFlow 10 filter, a 150watt heater set to 82 degrees, some driftwood, a rock, an airpump&airstone and my plants. I'm in the process of fishless cycling the water. Right now my routine with my plants is 12 hours of lights, then 12 hours of darkness and oxygen bubbling.

    Hope this wasn't too long. Thank you for any and all (much welcomed) advice.
    Last edited by fishheadjim; 01-05-2014 at 03:26 AM. Reason: Added Picture

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    I can't help you with your lighting questions but there are many here who can. I can tell you that filter is not big enough for your tank. It is designed to filter up to a 10 gallon and only moves 100 gallons per hour. Ideally you want a filter that will move at least 10 times the volume of your tank per hour. In my opinion the filter outtake is too short for your tank and will not move the water from the bottom and you will have "dead spots" that don't get filtered. You might want to look at a small canister filter and some extensions for the filter outtake.
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    Welcome to AC!

    Light ID - if you took a pic of the light someone here could tell you what it is fer sure, but here's a tip:

    Fluorescent tubes are measured in 1/8ths of an inch...so if you have a long tube bulb, and it is 5/8ths of an inch in diameter, that's a T5. I kinda doubt you have a T5 tube on that size of tank - I don't think they come that short, tho I'm not 100% sure on that. In any case, I don't think 8 watts is enough. Look for a daylight bulb with a 6700k output.
    At 12 hours per day of light, you likely won't be long seeing algae growth...I'd cut down on your light to 8 hrs per day.

    That size and configuration of tank limits the kind and amount of fish you can have, so keep that in mind when you start thinking fish.

    Looking good so far!

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    Agreed with above lighting advice.
    For a tank that size, DIY co2 should be no problem.
    http://www.qsl.net/w2wdx/aquaria/diyco2.html

    Here is a site that helped me a lot for co2 dosing.

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    I can't help you with your lighting questions but there are many here who can. I can tell you that filter is not big enough for your tank. It is designed to filter up to a 10 gallon and only moves 100 gallons per hour. Ideally you want a filter that will move at least 10 times the volume of your tank per hour. In my opinion the filter outtake is too short for your tank and will not move the water from the bottom and you will have "dead spots" that don't get filtered. You might want to look at a small canister filter and some extensions for the filter outtake.
    I can't afford a cannister so hopefully I can think of something. I will definitely buy one when I get the cash. It's pretty ridiculous that they included a filter that is both too weak and has too short of an intake for the packaged tank. Thanks for the advice.

    Welcome to AC!

    Light ID - if you took a pic of the light someone here could tell you what it is fer sure, but here's a tip:

    Fluorescent tubes are measured in 1/8ths of an inch...so if you have a long tube bulb, and it is 5/8ths of an inch in diameter, that's a T5. I kinda doubt you have a T5 tube on that size of tank - I don't think they come that short, tho I'm not 100% sure on that. In any case, I don't think 8 watts is enough. Look for a daylight bulb with a 6700k output.
    At 12 hours per day of light, you likely won't be long seeing algae growth...I'd cut down on your light to 8 hrs per day.

    That size and configuration of tank limits the kind and amount of fish you can have, so keep that in mind when you start thinking fish.

    Looking good so far!
    Thanks for the advice and warm welcome. It looks like it is about 12" long and about 5/8" wide. I will follow your advice and cut back on lighting. Will the Daylight bulb that you mentioned fit into the little two-pin sockets that I currently have? I've never bought a bulb besides incandescent so I'm having a hard time figuring it out. I'm going to wait a long while before I get fish. Want to make sure I can keep the plants alive first. I'll just give them pure ammonia or fish food if they lack nitrates.

    Agreed with above lighting advice.
    For a tank that size, DIY co2 should be no problem.
    http://www.qsl.net/w2wdx/aquaria/diyco2.html

    Here is a site that helped me a lot for co2 dosing.
    Thanks for the advice. I started a DIY kit just to observe how it worked a few days ago. I used the very same site. I'll add a working model to my tank in a few days when I can get fresh yeast.

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    You got two plants in a very deep tank. The deepness will restrict the amount of light for the plants Plant growth is restricted by whatever is in short supply. Can be the basic nutrients NPK, can be light, can be carbon. On a tank like this CO2 usage isn't going to be super high. You can run some bio co2 but I don'[t think the difference will be big, especially if you don't feed the plants.

    At this time your money would be better spend on a liquid test kit and more plants. Also, with tanks of this shape, get some height in there with wood with plants tied to it. Your lack of floor space restricts you to the smallest fish for a shoal. Ember tetras or smaller.
    Last edited by talldutchie; 01-05-2014 at 04:15 PM.

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    T5 bulbs come in different spectrums so you certainly should be able to find one at 6700k to fit your tank.
    If your local hardware store doesn't carry them, you will find them a for a bit more money wherever the tank was purchased, or other fish store, or fish supply stores online like Fosters and Smith or even Amazon. Shipping is a bit of a pain tho, so if you go online, you'll want to order a few things in order to get free shipping or at least make it worth the coin.

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    Everything I know about anubias is that it really doesn't require extra lighting beyond the standard. You could try java moss as a carpet...get some regular mesh and help it climb. Or even a moss wall. Java moss isn't gorgeous, but it doesn't need special lights. A moss ball here or there would be cool on the bottom if you can't get grass to grow with your current lights.

    You can also look into java fern for a plant that doesn't need special lights. I have no idea what the sword needs, but the plants I mentioned should be ok as-is.

    Fish options....if your LFS doesn't have a lot of variety, neons would do ok there, or a couple of guppies. Better fish would be microfish like ember tetras, endlers, or micro rasbora would be awesome, and some cherry shrimp would make an active, fun tank.

    You are totally right to make sure your plants live before adding fish though, great thinking!
    20 gallon with a male betta, neons, glowlights, and red cherry shrimp. (work in progess) Recently added a few LIVE plants and driftwood, Woooohoooo!

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    You got two plants in a very deep tank. The deepness will restrict the amount of light for the plants Plant growth is restricted by whatever is in short supply. Can be the basic nutrients NPK, can be light, can be carbon. On a tank like this CO2 usage isn't going to be super high. You can run some bio co2 but I don'[t think the difference will be big, especially if you don't feed the plants.

    At this time your money would be better spend on a liquid test kit and more plants. Also, with tanks of this shape, get some height in there with wood with plants tied to it. Your lack of floor space restricts you to the smallest fish for a shoal. Ember tetras or smaller.
    Makes sense to me. I already have an API master kit and I'm already testing the water regularly, if only to get into the habit. I will probably get some more plants this week. I really want a piece of driftwood or bogwood that is tall and tapers down into a split root-like base (vageuly like this but prettier). I have trouble getting good wood around here though. I might just make it a shrimp and snail tank. I would probably feel bad limiting the fish to such a small area.

    T5 bulbs come in different spectrums so you certainly should be able to find one at 6700k to fit your tank.
    If your local hardware store doesn't carry them, you will find them a for a bit more money wherever the tank was purchased, or other fish store, or fish supply stores online like Fosters and Smith or even Amazon. Shipping is a bit of a pain tho, so if you go online, you'll want to order a few things in order to get free shipping or at least make it worth the coin.
    Awesome. I will try calling Lowe's today. The included light has a kind of purplish hue to it so a new light might improve aesthetics in addition to plant health.

    Everything I know about anubias is that it really doesn't require extra lighting beyond the standard. You could try java moss as a carpet...get some regular mesh and help it climb. Or even a moss wall. Java moss isn't gorgeous, but it doesn't need special lights. A moss ball here or there would be cool on the bottom if you can't get grass to grow with your current lights.

    You can also look into java fern for a plant that doesn't need special lights. I have no idea what the sword needs, but the plants I mentioned should be ok as-is.

    Fish options....if your LFS doesn't have a lot of variety, neons would do ok there, or a couple of guppies. Better fish would be microfish like ember tetras, endlers, or micro rasbora would be awesome, and some cherry shrimp would make an active, fun tank.

    You are totally right to make sure your plants live before adding fish though, great thinking!
    I'll probably go with your advice and get some java moss and maybe a marimo or two. Also, I was thinking about a java fern. Thanks! I'll update with pictures soon. Also, my Aqueon filter is kind of buzzing so I contacted them and they are sending me a new one for free. So that is awesome. Now I can buy a bigger one for my tall tank and use my new QuietFlow 10 for my quarantine tank.

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    Check ebay for wood. I seem to recall someone mentioning that there's a few dealers who photograph each indidivual they sell.

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