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Thread: New tank help!

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    Hi everyone, hope you all had a great holiday. So for christmas I got a 37g marineland aquarium with led day/night lighting. It's an upgrade from my current 20g planted aquarium. A few questions I have regarding the switch over:

    1. I currently have 2 plants in my tank, an amazon sword and a anubias. I don't have any soil in my tank, it's just in my substrate. I was told from a few people, 2 different LFS, that you don't necessarily need soil, if you have enough detritus, it'll be enough. Now that I'm switching over, my substrate won't be "dirty" so should I add soil? I currently just add a few root tabs and flourish now.

    2. In your opinion...I currently have a marine land 200 filter. It says it's good upto a 50gal tank. Would it be enough for my larger tank as far as filtration goes? I was also looking at a fluval c-series filter, reviews say it's good.

    3. I currently have (4) silver tip tetras (2) diamond tetras (4) rummy nose tetra (1) bushy nose pleaco (1) cherry barb. What are some stocking ideas for my "bigger" tank.

    Thanks for your help/suggestions.
    37 Gallon Community: (3)Diamond Tetra (1) Black Phantom Tetra (1) Bushy Nose Pleco (4) Silvertip Tetra (5) rummy nose tetra (1) "fancy" angel (4) Serpae Tetra (2) Neon Dwarf Gourami (8) Plants

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    1. The plants will be fine without soil but you will probably need to add some root tabs for the sword.

    2. You should add another filter to go along with the one you currently have. I have a Fluval c-series on my 29g (I forget the exact size) and I love it!

    3. The best thing you could do for your fish is add to the schools and bring them up to a proper sized group for each species.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
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    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

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    I really want to find a really good filter where I can have 1 running. I currently have 2 on my 20, the marineland land and the stock Aqueon that came with my 20gal setup.

    I want to build on my schools Definately, but I want like a nice centerpiece fish for my tank.
    37 Gallon Community: (3)Diamond Tetra (1) Black Phantom Tetra (1) Bushy Nose Pleco (4) Silvertip Tetra (5) rummy nose tetra (1) "fancy" angel (4) Serpae Tetra (2) Neon Dwarf Gourami (8) Plants

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    Do you still have the gourami's that are listed in your signature? That kinda cuts down on your options or need for centerpeice fish...?

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    No I don't. I haven't updated my signature in awhile. I have had bad luck with gouramies. I've must have gone through like 10 of them. Gold, dwarf powder blue, flame, all died and in a short amount of time.
    37 Gallon Community: (3)Diamond Tetra (1) Black Phantom Tetra (1) Bushy Nose Pleco (4) Silvertip Tetra (5) rummy nose tetra (1) "fancy" angel (4) Serpae Tetra (2) Neon Dwarf Gourami (8) Plants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asult316 View Post
    I really want to find a really good filter where I can have 1 running. I currently have 2 on my 20, the marineland land and the stock Aqueon that came with my 20gal setup.

    I want to build on my schools Definately, but I want like a nice centerpiece fish for my tank.
    You could either add a 2nd filter, as suggested, or perhaps you'd be more accepting of a canister filter? There are a lot of options, but if you want to save money, I'd go with a SunSun or Grech (same thing) 302 or 303 canister filter. I've been running a 302 & 303 on my 75gal without issue for about a year now. Saved me a bundle and outperforms the Penn Plax Cascade I had on there before (which actually broke). If you want to spend a bit extra, I do have experience with Rena Filstar canisters, as well, and they are just as good or better. Same principles/setup as the SunSun/Grech - stronger motor.

    A nice centerpiece fish for that tank would be one of the Gourami species. You could probably get away with an Angelfish (on sale at Petsmart right now). All of your fish are schooling fish, except for the pleco, so you might be better off switching to 1-2 schools and making them larger, while rehoming the rest. Would probably look nicer, while encouraging them to stay closer together, whereas in smaller pairs/schools, they tend to disperse throughout the tank (which isn't as impressive a spectacle).
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    I was mistaken on the filter, mine is a fluval 306 canister, not a c-series. It is rated for up to 70 gallons which most will tell you is just under what you need, but it also moves 303 gallons per hour and I think this is much more important than the tank size the filter is rated for. This canister filter will be well suited for your 37 gallon tank and you won't need another. Regardless of what filter you choose, you should run them together on the tank for at least a month to get the new filter properly cycled.
    My opinion about the c-series is even the biggest, the c-4, is not quite big enough for a 37g by itself and would recommend running two filter if you choose this one. The reasons are because with an HOB you don't have the placement options like you do with a canister and most HOB filters don't move as much gallons per hour as a comparative sized canister. Both of these reasons could leave dead spots(no current) in your tank and this is one of the reasons two HOB's are usually recommended.

    I wouldn't recommend a centerpiece fish until you get those schools up to proper size and see how much room is left and where your nitrates sit before each weekly water change. You have 4 schooling species in your tank and when you get them all up to good sized groups you may find there is no room left for a larger fish.
    Last edited by mommy1; 12-27-2013 at 02:58 PM.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asult316 View Post
    No I don't. I haven't updated my signature in awhile. I have had bad luck with gouramies. I've must have gone through like 10 of them. Gold, dwarf powder blue, flame, all died and in a short amount of time.
    Did you get them all from the same place? Could be Dwarf Gourami iridovirus. Bad breeding habits have led to outbreaks of this disease and it's supposedly very contagious and spreads rapidly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asult316 View Post
    I really want to find a really good filter where I can have 1 running. I currently have 2 on my 20, the marineland land and the stock Aqueon that came with my 20gal setup.
    I suggest an API Filstar XP-M, which is rated for 75 gal. Very user friendly and the perfect size canister for a 37 gal. Load it with the sponges that come with the filter in the bottom basket and fill the top basket with biomedia. You will have excellent filtration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinVA View Post
    Did you get them all from the same place? Could be Dwarf Gourami iridovirus. Bad breeding habits have led to outbreaks of this disease and it's supposedly very contagious and spreads rapidly.
    I actually have tried from 2 different stores, nowhere near each other. I really like them, but for some reason, no luck.
    37 Gallon Community: (3)Diamond Tetra (1) Black Phantom Tetra (1) Bushy Nose Pleco (4) Silvertip Tetra (5) rummy nose tetra (1) "fancy" angel (4) Serpae Tetra (2) Neon Dwarf Gourami (8) Plants

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