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  1. #1

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    So I have my planted 55g, like so:



    It's doing pretty well. Low tech with ferts (Excel in the post I hope as Anubias looking rather transparent).

    As you can see, it does look a little empty of livestock. I am doing things slowly ... but would like to get some idea for how to turn this into a happy small community - or even if your advice is to leave things as they are, it would be good to know how the experts perceive tanks and their progress!

    Current stock:

    8-9x Kuhli loaches
    6-8x adult small guppies (we think endler hybrids - they are the size of endlers, even the females bar one big momma) + some fry
    5x old neons
    4x black neons
    1x male betta
    4 (5?)x Otos
    Some amano and cherry shrimps.

    Other than the betta and the Oto these guys all migrated from their old tank with me so we're all old friends.

    ISSUE 1. I would like 2 schooling fish (is that the right term? school or shoal ...) so am going to let either the black tetras or the neons go and up the numbers of the other species. Ideally I'd like middle of tank fish, so am leaning towards keeping the black neons.

    Letting the black neons go: easy, they are big healthy fish. LFS will happily take them
    Letting the normal neons go: LFS would euthanise my ugly ragged one and I'm not willing to let that happen as there is nothing wrong with him.

    Plan - wait for ugly neon to die and take others to LFS? Up the black neon numbers in the meantime.

    ... any recommendations for a second species? I like colour, I like LITTLE fish. Am quite taken by some little transparent ones with bright blue eyes I saw in LFS. Don't want anything genetically modified as have read online and some coloured fish might be, but think that's unusual in the UK anyway? Ideally also middle of tank fish as the guppies mostly occupy the top level and the betta likes to sleep up there. Guppies are quite enough for him to deal with.

    ISSUE 2. More Otos? Can tank handle more of these lovely little fish?

    ISSUE 3. More Kuhlis or is that pushing it as they share the bottom with the shrimp? I adore the kuhlies! They are so playful and fun to watch ...

    ISSUE 4. Guppy fry. I seem to have about one survivor per month. They are very small so a snack for everyone, but obviously as the plants grow out there may well be more survivors. Thinking of selling/giving away the females when I have enough pretty males and keeping a male only tank (as was my original intention - it all went a bit wrong). How many males would be a good number do you think?

    Very grateful for any help/advice.
    My entire tank was built up with help from this forum so I feel I have learnt so much already!

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    The betta may run into problems with anything more aggressive than neons. They are weak swimmers, and their fins are very tempting to nip. Also, the betta might get aggressive with male guppies...their fins remind them of other bettas.

    They really usually aren't best for communities. Could you consider a different fish? There are lovely options for a 55g.

    Harlequin rasboras are very pretty.
    20 gallon with a male betta, neons, glowlights, and red cherry shrimp. (work in progess) Recently added a few LIVE plants and driftwood, Woooohoooo!

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    Tank realy looks good, your off to a good start, +1 to Azurescriber suggestion of Harlequin's, A big school of them would make your tank pop.
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    You have a beautiful tank. How do you keep the black and white substrate divide? For fish, if you want to stick with tetras, how about glowlight or lemon tetras?

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    Wow. That is a gorgeous tank! Love the substrate contrast!
    Hmm... Maybe albino glowlights? They're awesome because you can see right through them in spots. Here: https://www.google.com/search?q=albi...ih=740&dpr=0.9
    They'll happily school with regular glowlights. Glowlights aren't tight schoolers, though, they just tend to stay more or less together.
    You could try rummynose tetras if you want a tight schooler, or maybe you could go for some sort of rasbora instead. There are some pretty neat rasboras, and they're small and peaceful like tetras.
    I hate hearing people say "it's only a $3/$5/$1 fish/shrimp, so it's ok if it dies, I can just get another." It's still an animal! All animals should be treated like they're worth $10,000.
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    I know you're looking for ideas on stocking..... but just let me lift my jaw off the floor!!!!! Your tank is stunning!!! On a fish note...I added 10 serpae tetras to my tank some time back and really am pleased with the color and activity they add.

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    Take a look at the emperor tetra also. And that tank is beautiful!

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    Thanks, glad you like the tank.
    I do have to manually fix the substrate sometimes to keep the contrast as the kuhlis like to chuck the white sand all over the place :). I just push it back where it should be! I have some plastic runner under the substrate to help keep the split defined.

    Great tips. Will looks into the rasboras - they look very pretty. How many minimum to start with?
    The glowlights also look cool. So many decisions!!

    The betta is staying - he is a sort of rescue I posted about in another thread. He's an old boy I think, and no trouble. Spends most of his days hunting down baby shrimps . He ignores and guppies and the guppies ignore him. I do think he's happy here so I don't want him to passed on yet again and possibly end in a worse circumstance! Having said that there will be no plans to replace him when the time comes.

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    You've gotten some great stocking suggestions.
    You also seem to have a mellow betta - mine is that way too.
    for his sake, do not get any serpae tetras . they would love to nip at his fins and make his life miserable - but they are beautiful fish.
    I'd go with a nice school of Harleys (harlequin rasbora) at least 12. very nice fish, won't bother anyone and are a beautiful,lively addition to any tank.
    Your tank scape is beautiful BTW. well done!
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    + 1 to FM, get at least 12-15 Harleys if you decide to go that way.

    Here's another suggestion for you, Glowlight Danios, very active fish that is peaceful and stays small.

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