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    hey it works for me, i've been using potassium sulfate and magnesium sulfate for about 5 years and all my fish and plants thrived on it with no ill effect, ive kept rams in it, tetras, angels, plecos, did fine with it. as for the seachum fert tabs its the exact same stuff in seachum flourish micro nutrient liquid fertilizer except i get 8 tabs that can be dissolved and used over a few years for the same price as one bottle that i'll usually go through in a few months.

    As for my Co2 i found i dont really need it to grow plants, it just really makes them grow alot faster then i go through my dry ferts a lot quicker.

    to each there own i guess, i was tired of paying a ton for liquid ferts like potassium magnesium calcium, micro ferts so i just get dry ferts now and mix my own.
    Last edited by birdman1275; 11-25-2013 at 05:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talldutchie View Post
    EI is almost a guarantee for explosive plant growth if you got the lights to match. I suspect CO2 would also be a good idea if you went that route. For me personally the drawback would be the 50% water change every single week.

    My personal method is way more old fashioned and roughly based around PMDD with some PO4 added.



    If you do start EI I'm sure you know of http://calc.petalphile.com/ and http://www.barrreport.com/forumdispl...timative-Index
    where do you get P04 ive only ever been able to find p2s04? would be helpful to have p04

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    Quote Originally Posted by birdman1275 View Post
    where do you get P04 ive only ever been able to find p2s04? would be helpful to have p04
    never mind dutchie, I've read the tomm barr article that you posted, thats why i actually started doing dry ferts about 5 years ago. the mixture that i assume you use for your PO4 mixture is mixing it with KH2PO4, i chose to use pottasium sulfate instead because sulfur doesnt grow algae like the phosphates in the KH2po4 does, and i dindt have any demanding plants that needed the extra amounts of phosphates, when i first started i had potassium phosphate and potassium N03 i believe, but i ended up not needing the extra nitrogen and phosphate due to not having the demand for it from my plants, so just cut it out and stuck with the potassium sulfate which has worked great doesnt cause algea blooms or any adverse effects to my water chemistry fish or plants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genocidex View Post
    I have heard of people doing that kind of ferting, but its not advisable unless your doing a non stoked tank. Also on another note baking soda is an endothermic reaction you might be thinking of calcium chloride as thats an exothermic.... which brings up another question, would using CaCl harm my bb in the tank?
    BB gotcha, beneficial bacteria, the clacium chloride i use hasnt effected my beneficial bacteria at all, i have a healthy tank healthy filter, all my fish plants and inverts are healthy and happy and my water chemistry is awesome and best of all i have zero algae, at least visible algae. i mainly use the calcium for my inverts, every water change i use about 1/4 teaspoon in a 5 gallon water change, i would rather not dump and unsightly cuttle bone in my tank for the inverts to graze on.

    like i said it works for me and my fish and has for some time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talldutchie View Post
    Depends on the dosage but what would you get from CaCL? (ok, Ca obviously but why?)

    id post a link if i knew how, sadly i can never remember how to do it because i do it so infrequently.

    the website is americanaquariumproducts.com

    article is called aquarium chemistry overview up dated 10/19/13

    the author goes into great detail the importance of calcium and magnesium in any aquarium, and the misconceptions about GH in even tanks with discus rams and apistos.

    it s all based off of scientific evidence and makes a good point, its something i read a while ago and have been supplementing my planted takes with calcium and magnesium ever since even when keeping rams, angels and tetras.

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    Yes, I'm intimately familiar with that article. I gave my $0.02 on it in a water hardness discussion a few months ago. LEt's summarize by saying I consider the article incomplete, a pain in the rear to read and quite misleading in a lot of places

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    Just adding my two-cents worth (which in today's economy amounts to a plug nickel, LOL!):

    I fert with both Flourish comp and API non-copper root tabs. That way, ferts are in the water column as well as in the substrate. I always dose conservatively, using less than the label recommends. I'm sure all my plants benefit, as most of them don't need heavy ferting.

    I have Anubias, two varieties of dwarf crypts, an Amazon Sword, lots of java ferns, marimo mossballs, floating hornwort, some floating wisteria, and a few fakes thrown in to fill out the picture.

    When it comes to dosing, I wait and see how my plants are doing. Thus far, they seem fine with the amount I'm giving them, which is about half of what they say to.

    --mermaid
    20 gal. high: planted; 8 white cloud minnows, 10 RCS, 2 blue shrimp, several snails; AC50, Azoo air. 65 gal: planted; 7 rosy barbs, 6 glofish,, 2 zebra danios, 6 rosy red (fathead) minnows, 3 dojo loaches, several snails; AC110 x 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mermaidwannabe View Post
    Just adding my two-cents worth (which in today's economy amounts to a plug nickel, LOL!):

    I fert with both Flourish comp and API non-copper root tabs. That way, ferts are in the water column as well as in the substrate. I always dose conservatively, using less than the label recommends. I'm sure all my plants benefit, as most of them don't need heavy ferting.

    I have Anubias, two varieties of dwarf crypts, an Amazon Sword, lots of java ferns, marimo mossballs, floating hornwort, some floating wisteria, and a few fakes thrown in to fill out the picture.

    When it comes to dosing, I wait and see how my plants are doing. Thus far, they seem fine with the amount I'm giving them, which is about half of what they say to.

    --mermaid
    i do the same thing, i just kind of dose to the needs of my plants instead of following a label that doesnt know my tank. so far it worked well.

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