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  1. #31

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    1 Not allowed!
    +1 to the above

    Many industry experts would agree with that. Even with under gravel filters, the flow and surface areas are limited in comparison which will limit bacteria growth.

    http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fwsubwebi...iltrmedart.htm
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

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    2 Not allowed!
    Byron your advice sounds of uneducate. I do not wish to trouble but I am familiar with Walstad's work and have experience with her work. Ammonia do not persist in her setups for months. and once establish to not present problems after. Furthermore, soil is not hand in hand organics. Also, ammonia is not "organic", and not all decomposition of organic makes ammonia. Ammonia release of many soil is most minimal, with exception of miracle grow, which is all organic waste. I think you paint an unrepresent picture of walstad method when you suggest ammopnia can persist for such time lengths. This simply is not true.

    Further the asker does not give water parameters, but condemns water quality of the tap. What us the hardbness? I suspect you cause your own problems. No reason to blame water if you cause the problems. I ask because it usually is not water. It is funny though. II wold not jerk to assume that water is the problem, and I would not think rinsing the filter is the sole problem, but it may be. I have seen bacteria that is resistant to chlorine for short periods.

    I think that over all the mesage is best that less attempt to control the tank allows for more stability. Perhaps some problems are not as problemed as you think? Perhaps your tank runs better without you?

    And yes, much of many bacteria are in substrate, but not all are of nitrifying types. In fact, most are not, and most bacteria in aquariums are not!

  3. #33

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    0 Not allowed!
    Quote Originally Posted by mommy1 View Post
    The concept is not difficult and stop assuming we are idiots. Bacteria grows on the hard surfaces in the tank and on surfaces in the filter media.. not difficult. Yes there is some bacteria in the tank, but due to the extreme porous nature of the sponge and ceramic media in the filter and the smooth nature of most things in the tank, there is far more surface area in the filter than there is in the tank, therefore, more bacteria in the filter. Proof to my point, I can completely tear down a tank, replace all the decor and set it back up and never experience an ammonia or nitrite spike, in fact over the 40 years I have in this hobby I have done this many many times. However, if I change filters, or replace filter media I now have ammonia and consequently nitrite spikes, unfortunately I have had to do this a few times over the last 40 years. I will trust my experience over your google research any day.
    This is out of line in more than one area. In my 25 years of maintaining thriving aquaria I have always washed my filter media under the tap. Over the past two years I changed the substrate in all but one of my seven tanks, and I either rinsed the filter media under the tap (the loose media) or replaced it (the pads) at the same time. These rebuilds were each completed in one day, with fish going back in the following morning. And a couple of these tanks had over 100 fish in them. Ammonia and nitrite never rose above zero. Part of this is due to arachea on the wood (which was not rinsed) but most thanks to the plants. My experiences are not unique, but they certainly differ from yours.

    Byron.
    Last edited by Cliff; 11-10-2013 at 06:36 PM. Reason: drama
    Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
    Vancouver, BC, Canada

    Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

  4. #34

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    0 Not allowed!
    Byron, please check your PMs
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
    "Not using a quarantine tank is like playing Russian roulette. Nobody wins the game, some people just get to play longer than others." - Anthony Calfo
    Fishless Cycle Cycling with Fish Marine Aquarium Info [URL="http://saltwater.aquaticcommunity.com/"]

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    3 Not allowed!
    The issue with regards to tap water has to do with chlorination/treated water. If you don't have chlorinated water then rinsing in the tap will not kill your BB.

    If you do have chlorinated water then yes it will kill your BB, since that's the whole point of water treatment... to kill organisms living in the water supply.

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