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    3 Not allowed!
    Honestly, nothing is worse than leaving them to die a slow and painful death.

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    2 Not allowed!
    I'm glad talldutchie posted that link to Nathan Hill's article from PFK. In another thread least week I mentioned something about this, and was asked for the article, and I couldn't track it down. Now we have it.

    As it notes therein [scroll down to the hammer], the best method is the one I use, which is the sudden thump, if you like. It is instantaneous, and you can't do any better than that if you are one of those who believe that fish do feel pain in some manner. The freezing, clove oil, etc all involve some time.

    I just net the fish out, onto a folded over paper towel, then immediately fold the towel all around it and give it a hard thump. Instantly dead. With the paper towel so folded you don't see anything, as some worry about that.

    Byron.
    Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
    Vancouver, BC, Canada

    Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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    0 Not allowed!
    I understand that it's very quick and effective but some people are squeamish about doing that. These are betta owners that are arguing about this. Most of them feel differently about their fish. They're beloved pets and they just can't bring themselves to do the thump method.
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    1 Not allowed!
    I will do the freeze method if and when the time comes...the temp will drop so quickly that the ailing fish will not suffer very long, if at all.
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    0 Not allowed!
    If I had to do it I think I'd use the freeze method. Do any of you have experience with the clove oil method?
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    2 Not allowed!
    I'm not going to belabour all this, but it always amuses me that some are so concerned about not making the fish suffer, yet they will use methods guaranteed to do just that.

    If you knew you were to be killed, would you prefer being dropped in freezing water and over a period of minutes gradually losing consciousness and then dying? Or a thump on the back of your head that killed you instantly?

    Just wondering, hypothetical really, not meaning to prolong this discussion.
    Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
    Vancouver, BC, Canada

    Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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    0 Not allowed!
    You have a very good point, Byron. Thanks, everyone for the imput.
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    0 Not allowed!
    I always think that if you cannot euthanise a fish humanely (and I'm talking about the thump method) then you, perhaps, shouldn't keep them. I think I'd find it upsetting to kill a large pet fish, but I would still do it - and take the speed of dispatch very, very seriously.

    With small fish - wrapping them in kitchen paper and crushing them with a brick on the patio does the job superbly (and very quickly) without any doubt over the speed of the death. You can then pop the wrapped (and crushed) body in the bin.

    I have used the clove oil + vodka method before too.
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    0 Not allowed!
    Good point. Thank you for the advice.
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  10. #20

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    1 Not allowed!
    Freezing water? Who does that?

    I net the fish out into a dish of tank water...and put that into the freezer...slow chill down...

    I've seen people try to give a coup de grace to all kinds of animals, and its awful if you aren't confident at it. Squeamish people end up not quite getting it right the first time, and end up causing the very pain they are trying to avoid. Thump is the best only if you are sure you will do it right the first time.

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