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Thread: Platy - Ich?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishmommie View Post
    What is Aquavital bactosprint? If it's not a dechlorinator, why would you use it? just curious.
    It is bacteria in order to make water suitable for the fish after complete or big change of water. It also helps with the Nitrates which are high in my area.
    Dimitris

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    ?? Dechlorinator or water conditioner is what makes new water suitable for a fish following a water change - bacteria doesn't add anything beneficial to the water itself.
    46 gal fw tank with black skirt tetras, neon tetras, spotted corys, green corys, 1 guppy, cherry barbs, otoclinus, snails & 4 amano shrimp - plastic & live plants
    5 gal QT with green corys & 2 guppies

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    This idea of adding bacterial supplements at each water change is one that is recommended by many manufacturers, and reliable ones like Seachem and API. I don't do it, and don't see the need, but I can appreciate that in newer tanks, or when something goes wrong such as disease requiring treatment with antibiotics, this might be helpful. The unfortunate result is that one becomes an aquarist constantly having to dump substances into the water, and the more substances added, even more seem to be needed. If one follows all the advice from even these reputable firms, the aquarium becomes a catchment for many chemicals that I feel can't be helpful or good for the fish. Hence my approach of never adding substances unless absolutely necessary to deal with a real issue.

    So, dkatsariotis, my suggestion, which I think is going to be seconded by fishmommie and imma24 and many others, is to stop this bactosprint and stick to a good water conditioner. And use that in moderation too; there is no advantage to "overdosing" conditioners, regardless of what the manufacturers will recommend as "safe." Conditioner for the water entering the tank is sufficient, as an article or response in the November TFK clearly points out.

    Byron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    This idea of adding bacterial supplements at each water change is one that is recommended by many manufacturers, and reliable ones like Seachem and API. I don't do it, and don't see the need, but I can appreciate that in newer tanks, or when something goes wrong such as disease requiring treatment with antibiotics, this might be helpful. The unfortunate result is that one becomes an aquarist constantly having to dump substances into the water, and the more substances added, even more seem to be needed. If one follows all the advice from even these reputable firms, the aquarium becomes a catchment for many chemicals that I feel can't be helpful or good for the fish. Hence my approach of never adding substances unless absolutely necessary to deal with a real issue.

    So, dkatsariotis, my suggestion, which I think is going to be seconded by fishmommie and imma24 and many others, is to stop this bactosprint and stick to a good water conditioner. And use that in moderation too; there is no advantage to "overdosing" conditioners, regardless of what the manufacturers will recommend as "safe." Conditioner for the water entering the tank is sufficient, as an article or response in the November TFK clearly points out.

    Byron.
    Hello, thanks for your advice. The truth is that i never used such chemicals before not even with my 250lt tank. So will stop them. As a conditioner and chlorine remover this product

    http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...ges/Prime.html

    And this one

    http://www.aquariumline.com/catalog/...ml?language=en

    Are they suitable and proper to use?
    The pet owner who is supposed to know recommended those (and the bactosprint also).
    Dimitris

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    Unfortunately one of the Platies, the smallest and the first to have the spots, died this morning... :-(
    Dimitris

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkatsariotis View Post
    Hello, thanks for your advice. The truth is that i never used such chemicals before not even with my 250lt tank. So will stop them. As a conditioner and chlorine remover this product

    http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...ges/Prime.html

    And this one

    http://www.aquariumline.com/catalog/...ml?language=en

    Are they suitable and proper to use?
    The pet owner who is supposed to know recommended those (and the bactosprint also).
    The Seachem "Prime" is a water conditioner, so use that at each water change to condition the new water being added from the tap.

    The second product I would not use. This looks to be very similar to a product made by API that claims to somehow remove organics and avoid water changes...nonsense.

    On the death of the platy, this is not all that unexpected. When ich is caught very early, treatment will work and fish will usually recover. But the longer it goes before treatment, the weaker the fish. When fish with ich begin settling on the substrate, they are in bad shape. There is nothing more you could have done, it takes time to deal with this as we have been advising.

    Byron.

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    So sorry to hear about your platy. I was afraid that might be an outcome since you have been dealing with this for so long. Stay the course and hopefully the rest of the fish will come out of it okay.

    I see Byron and Imma have already given you good advice on the use of unnecessary chemicals. A good water conditioner, such as Seachems Prime is really all you need.

    Good luck. I'm hoping the best for your remaining fish.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Although I feel very sad about my Platy, I am happy at the same time because of all this help and information you provide me day by day. The only certain thing is that I will never use any other chemical except from the conditioner.
    Today I noticed that white marks appeared on one of the Plecos. I keep cleaning the gravel with the vacuum every day. Tomorow I will replace 50% of the water again and use only the conditioner.

    Thank you again for all your help. I wish I joined your community sooner. Maybe I would have avoided this Ich situation.

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    ich is tough to combat but not unbeatable. I've dealt with it twice and beat it both times. You must always be careful when adding new fish to your tank. Sometimes they bring the ich protozoan with them. That's why many here recommend a quarantine tank.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Another question,

    Can I use the conditioner between water changes or only when I change water?

    Thank you,

    Dimitris

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