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  1. Exclamation I'm almost certain this is ich- But i was about to change substrates...


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    Hi

    I have a Cardinal Tetra with what looks like a tiny redish hole in his skin surrounded by white. I can't get a picture, apologies.

    I am fairly certain that this is Ich and i have removed the carbon and added API Super Ich Cure. I have also increased the temperature of the tank slightly, as i did change the temperature only recently and i wonder if perhaps that had something to do with it.

    One thing i do know likely contributed to any illness (should this not be ich) is that the substrate is old and dirty- I have often vacuumed the gravel out but i was actually going to change this very substrate today when i saw the illness on my fish. I had planned to catch all my fish and then clear out the tank completely and replace every last bit of gravel with silica sand. (I bought this at a pool store- it's pool filter sand and is ok for aquariums or so says my research.)

    Here is my issue: Should i change the substrate anyway? The gravel that is there is likely quite dirty and could hold disease waiting to strike. I could catch all the fish, clean the tank as much as possible, then put new water in that i would treat with the API Super Ich Cure. Then i would scoop the fish out of the bucket using a net, and hopefully the fish will survive having a cleaner and healthier substrate.

    Now, I could be completely wrong here- and that's what i hope to learn from this post. Any opinions on how to proceed?

    My tank is 30g freshwater with gravel substrate, and all the levels i have taken for the past month or two have been stable. In the tank are a couple of live plants, 8 Cardinal Tetras, 6 Pygmy Rainbowfish, 5 Panda Corydoras, 4 Ottocats, one little Albino Corydora and one full sized Cory Catfish. The filter is a Fluval 206, and the tank is regularly cared for- water changes weekly of 20-30 %

    I would like to change the substrate to sand as soon as possible as i believe the substrate may be responsible for the recent unexplained death of a couple of my corydoras.

    Thanks for your time.
    Who Rescued Who?

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    That doesn't sound like ich. Ich looks like you salted the fish. This is ich.



    What you are describing sounds more like something like an ulcer which could be related to poor water quality. IF I am right, I would go ahead and change out the substrate and get those fish in a cleaner environment.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    You may be right. That doesn't look like what's on my fish.
    My gut says to change the substrate as well.
    Thank you.
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    Changing your substrate typically will not effect your water quality to a significant amount

    What are your current water parameters and what is your typical maintenance and water change schedule like ?
    If you take your time to do the research FIRST, you can successfully set-up and keep ANY type of aquarium with ease.
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    If the tank substrate is as dirty as the OP thinks it is changing it out will help water quality, but proper maintenance but be done after changing the substrate in order to keep the water quality up.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    Hi
    My water changes are weekly and that's around abouts 25% of the tank water.
    I recently brought in some new fish and i am realising only now how important a quaranteen tank is.
    As for water levels- i have a chart- i will be right back with that information.
    I was out of town for a month and left strict instructions with someone who said they understood aquariums and fish- i marked on a calander the water change days, and left him the number of each type of fish- he said none died yet i was missing a few- i am wondering if he even did the water changes. I began to suspect something is wrong not long ago- i think the substrate is awful though am not sure why since i vacuume with each water change.
    BRB with the levels.

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    Do you see anything like a tiny white string sticking out of the red spot? An anchor worm may have been brought in with the new fish and the wound does match the description.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    pH is 7.4
    Amm. Is 0
    Nitrite is 0
    Nitrate is 40
    KH is 40
    GH is 180

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    You are amazing! So smart and giving. - SeaLady Can't give you any more rep, but well said! - steeler58 Thank again!! You seem to enjoy your coffee. - steeler58 Thanks for the rep!! - Compass this doesnt look like pie... not the right kind.. - Sandz 
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    The nitrates are on the high side of what is considered acceptable. Even though fish can tolerate nitrates better than ammonia and nitrites, they are still toxic to fish and should be kept as low as possible. I would do a 75% water change and bring them down.
    When I go fishing I just place a sharp rock in the water and sit there waiting for all the dead fish to float to the top... Kingfisher
    Brutal honesty will be shown on this screen.
    I think my fish is adjusting well to the four gallon, He's laying on his side attempting to go to sleep on the bottom of the gravel.
    Tolerance is a great thing to have, so is the ability to shut up.

    I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.


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    No- i see nothing coming from the spot.

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