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  1. Default Yes another stocking question!


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    Howdy All! been a while since my last post. I am thinking about consolidating my aquariums to just one. I have a 55 and a 72 bowfront.

    In the 72 I currently have 2 Angels, 3 Zebra, 3 cardinal tetras, and 3 Ottos. In the 55 I currently have 5 serpae tetras, 6 black skirt tetras, 3 ottos, and 5 red eye tetras. Does anyone see any issues with moving the stock from the 55 to the 72?

    The tank parameters are identical, same substrates, same plant types etc. In fact I will be moving the plants there as well. Thoughts ...concerns??

    Thanks
    Last edited by mrramsey; 10-23-2013 at 02:49 PM.
    Mike
    120g Mixed Reef In Progress
    120g Reef Journal
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    My 55g Tank Remodel Project
    72g Bowfront -Out of Service

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    Yes, there are real risks, and I would not combine these fish.

    Serpae Tetra are known fin nippers, especially in small numbers (8 is recommended as minimum, some suggest 12+) and even more especially when temptation is so strong (the angelfish with their long fins and slow, sedate manner). This is really asking for trouble.

    Along the same lines, though perhaps not as strong, are the Black Skirt Tetra. Again, increasing the numbers can help. But here too, when combined with angelfish it is really risky.

    And still with the same problems but perhaps a bit less, is the Beacon or Red Eye Tetra. These are also quite active swimmers, and this can unsettle angelfish too.

    The otos are fine, so its not all bad news.

    Byron.

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    So the Angels are the real issue... I might just have to look at re-homing them.
    Mike
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    My 55g Tank Remodel Project
    72g Bowfront -Out of Service

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    Any of those three species could bully any of the existing stock in the 72g, as Byron pointed out, besides the Angel. You should also increase the size of your Danio and Cardinal schools if somebody had not suggested this already.
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    I'll add that the otos may be at risk, depending on their size and the size of the angelfish. I have a tank of angels and whiteclouds, no problem with coexistence (other than I have to watch the temp carefully). I have another tank with larger-bodied angels but no white clouds - there were white clouds in there, once...

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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler1 View Post
    Any of those three species could bully any of the existing stock in the 72g, as Byron pointed out, besides the Angel. You should also increase the size of your Danio and Cardinal schools if somebody had not suggested this already.
    True but the danios were in the 55 originally. I am not going down the Cardinal road again. The 72 was initially going to be only for a Cardinals. Started with 30 and well there are 3 left.
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    Ah, now I remember your trials with the Cardinal's!
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    Yes that was a painful one. At least I didn't pay full price for them and they actually refunded most of the cost to me. I have found myself to be quite busy these days and maintaining both tank is becoming a chore which is why I am considering the consolidation. I think the fish will be ok in the 72 as long as the angels are gone. There are lots of plants and hiding spots for everyone.
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    Like Byron suggested; just increase your Serpae school a few and everything should be fine, especialy if your moving the Angels.
    Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
    Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit.
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