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10-09-2013, 02:12 AM #1
yet another intro
Hello everyone ,
pardon me while I jump into the shark tank so to speak as I am what you would call the proverbial fish newbie. A little background. My wife and I currently have 2 kids - ages 9 and soon to be 5. We also have other house critters. A couple middle age lazy house cats and a young 1 1/2 yr old Shit-Tzu who thinks he is an over-sized dog in a tiny body.
But we are looking at starting a community tank with the kids for a few reasons.
1) they love fish, the can spend hours looking at them at the local stores.
2) to help teach them patience and how to take care of something on a smaller scale. where they can have some (limited say on what we will put in there)
So soon we will probably be getting the first tank all though I know roughly what I need equipment wise I am not sure what I am will work beyond that. All I know is that I will be doing a tropical freshwater tank for the first go at it. For sizes I have my eye on a 20 - 37 gallon tank at the local shop. I would love to go up to a 55 but I honestly don't think I have the room for it without it getting uncomfortably close to my hallway leading to the kid's bedrooms. They include the Tank, hood, stand, filter, heater, gravel, thermometer, food for your fish of choice, water conditioner, and a net in the price of the setup, so I would just need a few other accessories like the decorations, gravel siphon (unless their is an easier way to do weekly changes), and a timer for the lights to keep it on a regular schedule.
I thought about starting off with a small school of 6 zebra danios but beyond that I am not sure. I probably won't go with the full planted tank and use the fake silk plants instead along with the rest of the decorations.
I am willing to take it slow and learn, thus any advise is greatly welcomed
10-09-2013, 02:13 AM #2
Allways nice to see a new face. Dont hesitate to contact me or a mod if experince any problems.Do as I say. Not as I do.
10-09-2013, 03:21 AM #3
Welcome to the team!!Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
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10-09-2013, 09:36 AM #4
Welcome to the AC....
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10-09-2013, 11:52 AM #5
Welcome to the AC :)My therapist says I need a bigger tank . . . . .
10-09-2013, 08:49 PM #6
Hello and welcome to the wonderful AC . The greatest fish site on the web.ask ?'s and change some water pair of JD's and loving it.
10-09-2013, 10:34 PM #7
Attachment 30546 to the AC!
Please post on the beginner freshwater forum to get the most answers.
Go with the biggest tank you can. The 37 gal is nice, but a 30 gallon is longer and gives you more options when it comes to fish selection (it provides a larger footprint). Tank height is not as important as tank length or width.
If you can fit a 36 inch long tank that is 18 inches wide, a 40 gal breeder is a really nice tank (see slaphppy7's thread - he just set up a beautiful 40 breeder, link is below - pages 32-34 have finished tank pics & video).
My 75 gal has all artificial plants - see my journal link in my sig,
To help with tank selection, here are sizes for 30 and 36 inch long tanks, showing
tank size, L x W x D and tank wts (lbs),empty & full -
20 Long 30 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 12 3/4 25 225 29 Gallon 30 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 18 3/4 40 330 37 Gallon 30 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 223/4 45 415 26 Flatback 36 1/4 x 12 1/2 x 16 5/8 42 300 23 Long 36 1/4 x 12 5/8 x 13 32 253 30 Gallon 36 1/4 x 12 5/8 x 16 3/4 43 343 38 Gallon 36 1/4 x 12 5/8 x 19 3/4 47 427 45 Gallon 36 1/4 x 12 5/8 x 23 3/4 66 515 30 Breeder 36 3/16 x 18 1/4 x 12 15/16 48 348 40 Breeder 36 3/16 x 18 1/4 x 16 15/16 58 458 50 Gallon 36 7/8 x 19 x 19 5/8 100 600 65 Gallon 36 7/8 x 19 x 24 5/8 126 775
Also, it's usually better to buy all you equipment individually, rather than in a kit or package. Online vendors have really good prices and you can choose the right equipment for your setup.
The very knowledgeable and friendly forum members will help with whatever questions you have.My 75 gal Journal & My Dual 29 gal Journal
My 75 gal - Gold Pristella Tetras, Scissortail Rasboras, Neon Dwarf Rainbowfish, Longfin Leopard & Zebra Danios, Bristlenose Pleco
My Dual 29 gals - Left Tank - Diamond Tetras. Right Tank - Amano Shrimp
"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....it's about learning to dance in the rain"
10-10-2013, 01:57 AM #8
I actually purchased the 37 gallon tank today. These are not kit's per say but I a selection of their stock at discounted prices unlike those Tetra pre-selected kits. The 37 gallon is actually the largest tank I could fit in the space provided otherwise I would have gone with a longer tank but with the other furniture that was not possible in order to keep it away from windows and ac/heater vents.
I made sure to get plant suitable substrate and lighting now in the event I decided to plant later rather than trying to change at a different time.
10-10-2013, 01:05 PM #9
A couple questions though
1) The filter I bought is the Tetra Whisper 40 Power filter. It is rated for 20-40gallon tanks at 210 gph. I am wondering if I should upgrade it to the 40-60 gallon version? as I know you can never have to much filtration but possibly to much flow. if that would help with the stocking capabilities.
2) Tank lighting. The hood came with a 24" full spectrum florescent lighting. for positioning it is sitting on the north side of the living room along a way. I have a large 5x7 west window (with a larger house on that side about 15 ft away) and them my kitchen window and patio sliding door about 30ft away on the south side. I was wondering what a decent light cycle would be, and I am positive I will need a timer as winter approaches our daylight hours are roughly 7am to about 5pm it is already starting to get darker. But the ambient light is some times sufficient I would think but other times it is not. So was wondering should I set a timer for like 7am - 6pm or so or what would you recommend?
10-10-2013, 01:13 PM #10
Your best bet to get responses to specific questions is to post in the appropriate forum - this is really for intros -
Once we see your posts (like in beginners sections, technical/tank set up, etc.) you will get many responses & LOTS of help! Welcome!!46 gal fw tank with black skirt tetras, neon tetras, spotted corys, cherry barbs, otoclinus, snails & 4 amano shrimp - plastic & live plants
5 gal QT
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