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  1. #21

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    You will know when it happens.. Its the mating dance between the fish. When one is ready they "dance" or shimmer at the other one and rub on them to entice mating.
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    Ok, when we get to that point, I suppose I have to remove them from the tank? They get mean to the other fish in there then?

  3. #23

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    Not really... It all depends on what you want with them... they would make a great pair but you need a pairing tank for any really reasonable survival rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandz View Post
    You will know when it happens.. Its the mating dance between the fish. When one is ready they "dance" or shimmer at the other one and rub on them to entice mating.
    I think I have seen that already then, recently. Gracefully dancing around each other and touching sides you mean? Or rubbing elsewhere?

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    Yep thats what I mean... look it up on youtube.com
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    Well, now last night I was watching the goings on and what do you know? The Angels were "kissing". The plot thickens and it scares me a bit. My babies are growing up and it looks like I have pairs. I don't have ambitions to become a breeder, I live in a rural area and have no idea what to do with the babies, and I don't have the space to start setting up a dozen tanks either.

    The Angels and Discus do tend to hang on opposite ends of the tank when they rest, so I assume these are their "territories". The "kissing" incidents happened in those respective areas too. There is a large plant on each end, they can completely disappear from sight there. I guess I will continue to just watch and see what happens. I do have the 30 gallon stand-by tank.
    Last edited by Glofish; 09-25-2013 at 01:53 PM.

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    With the angels, if you really do have a pair and they spawn, they will obviously attempt to protect the eggs and fry, up to a point. If they select a spawning site at either end of the tank, keeping the other fish away is fairly straightforward and the other fish will soon understand. However, the eggs/fry may not last long, for one of several reasons. First, commercially-raised angelfish (as opposed to wild caught) tend to eat their first few spawns on the slightest whim. This almost never occurs with wild fish, interestingly. Second, if you have nocturanl fish like any of the catfish (corys, plecos, etc) the eggs stand a very good chance of being eaten during darkness when the angel parents are resting. Third, even if the eggs hatch, the fry tend to be easy pickings and most won't survive. All this is what I term nature being itself, and if you don't want to be raising fry, just let nature take its course. But be careful of over-aggression of the angels to other fish.

    I believe discus are much the same, but I've not personally raised them so I will leave this for the experts.

    One last thing, female angels (with no male present) do sometimes lay eggs. Obviously the eggs will not get fertilized and will either fungus or be eaten. The jaw-locking you have observed is not indicative of a pair.

    Byron.
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    Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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    Well, I think I am just going to be hands-off and watch. If either "pair" gets too aggressive, I'll remove them and cross the next bridge after that. If they lay eggs, I doubt any will survive. It seems sad, but then I have no place for all these babies, and I keep the tank as natural as I can so this is just a part of it all I guess. (She says as images of sweet little baby fishes dance in her head).

    If the angels are both female, do they get aggressive too?

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    If the angels are both female, do they get aggressive too?
    I believe they can. I will attach a video I came across a few months back, of a near-perfect aquarium for angelfish. The fish happen to be wild caught Pterophyllum scalare from the Rio Cuiuni, a southern tributary of the Rio Negro just upstream of Barcelos, Brazil. On the substrate are Corydoras duplicareus, not exactly authentic because this species of cory is endemic to the Rio Poranga which is a northern Rio Negro small stream tributary, but that doesn't matter; it is one of the most beautiful corys, in my view. I was fortunate enough to get some of the first C. duplicareus imported into Canada after Dr. David Sands discovered and later described this species in 1995. But I digress; to the video. If you watch it through, you will observe the continual interaction between the angelfish; this is how they should behave if they are in the best of health and condition. Quiet, sedate, barely even swimming. There is an 8-foot high display at the Vancouver Aquarium containing angelfish and black ghost knifefish, and the group of about 12 angelfish behave exactly like this, clustered around a piece of branchwork.

    Last edited by Byron; 09-25-2013 at 11:44 PM.
    Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
    Vancouver, BC, Canada

    Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]

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    Beautiful. Mine are like that much of the time, by the large plant on one end of the aquarium. Other times they swim back and forth in tandem, and occasionally they go separate ways, usually when there is food to forage (flakes dropping). I have Albino Corys and Emerald Bronchi, they keep the substrate from caking and allow the plants to do their job better.

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