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09-17-2013, 11:39 PM #11
Last edited by gronlaura; 09-17-2013 at 11:51 PM.
09-18-2013, 12:56 AM #12
I am NOT in a hurry at all! I don't think I can afford to stock my tank all at once, so the cycling process can take all the time it wants to. :)
Isn't the ammonia in the beginning stages of being converted? Or is it simply being absorbed by my java moss? I realize that there are no nitrites present yet, but the amonia is halving every 24 ish hours. I have just read that letting the ammonia reach 0 has the potential to starve your bacteria, and also read that ammonia has to be in the range of 8-10ppm to interfere with the nitrification process. I am just trying to get a handle on why it is important for ammonia levels to reach all the way to 0 before you bring them up again.
09-19-2013, 01:56 AM #13
Good news, good news, bad news....
The ammonia is down to 1ppm, the bulbs that were pushed in on Sun. ( forgot about those in my description) are starting to sprout....
And we have totally wrong substrate for the first kind of fish we want. :(
Still better to find that out now, and a good thing pool filter sand is cheap. We fixated on the fact that Bolivian rams like a heavily planted tank and brought home floramax as a substrate. That is what I get for reading too specifically. So, tank is mid cycle. I am assuming it is better to change it over asap before the cycle is finished. After all, we are trying to grow bacteria on the substrate too, and the bulbs don't need to settle into this only to get changed over. But how will that affect the process? Slow it down? Bung it up? Force it to start over?
Whatever the case we will be adding another gleaning of water change and mulm from the tank one clean out on Saturday.
I am starting to wake up having dreamt about fish tanks. 0_o
09-19-2013, 12:26 PM #14
Here is a pic of the very bare bones. I figure it will be fun to see it change :)
09-19-2013, 12:26 PM #15
That is weird... Upside down picture :(
09-19-2013, 06:05 PM #16
09-19-2013, 07:20 PM #17
If you're going to change out the substrate, it's better to do it now before there are fish in the tank. Keep your filter media wet and the bacteria will survive in it for a couple of days. And if this were my tank, I'd use a sand substrate.
Last edited by Taurus; 09-19-2013 at 07:28 PM.When in doubt, do a water change.
"This ain't rocket science!"
09-19-2013, 09:17 PM #18
I understand your questions about different sources giving different instructions on fishless cycling. I only know what works and the fishless cycle instructions in my sig line work perfectly. I cycled a 90 gallon tank in 21 days following the directions to the letter. i only redosed ammonia when nitrites appeared and ammonia was 0 then only dosed 1/2 of the original dose. Then I only dosed every 24 hours provided i still had nitrites and ammonia had again dropped to 0.
once your cycle is complete (0 nitrites and ammonia) yes, you must feed the tank some ammonia if you don't stock it right away or the cycle will be lost.
Good luck with what ever instructions you chose to follow but I'd pick one and stay there :o).30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
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Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492
09-20-2013, 10:19 PM #19
It was less a question of why different sources give different recommendations ( hehe, this is the internet and home to dozens of different plans 0_o *eyes crossing*) than one about specifically why you suggest letting ammonia drop all the way to 0. No worries, ammonia has pretty much been sitting still at 2 ppm since the second drop (thought it had gone down to 1, but I am now thinking that was user error). Still no nitrites, and I am actually relieved that things aren't galloping away like I thought at first. I will stick to one plan henceforth, but do have questions still about when to change out the "ohcrapwrongtype" substrate.
Should we do that now before building anymore nice bacteria in there?
09-20-2013, 10:21 PM #20
Whoops! Looks like Taurus answered that. Ok... I will change substrate tomorrow and then toss in another round of mulm and changewater from tank one.
I apparently have one of those newfangled tanks where substrate DOES go on top....( aka, dratted ipad... I can't flip the picture over).