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Thread: My Discus not eating!! WHY?
09-19-2013, 06:30 PM #61
Not all fish can be kept together. There are differences in water parameters (GH, pH, temperature) between species, and there are behavioural differences like active fish and sedate fish, aggressive and peaceful fish, etc. As several of us have previously mentioned in this thread, you added discus (which require higher temperatures, somewhat more specific water, and a quiet surrounding) into an existing tank with active fish. There will be problems doing this. I'm very sorry for this, but none of us can change how a fish species is made by nature.
The others here with much more discus experience than I have, have tried to help. Sometimes one has to make the hard decision to re-home this or that fish.
Byron.Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada
Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
09-19-2013, 06:50 PM #62
Informative thread! I hope your discus pull through and become healthy.110 Gallon New World Cichlid Tank
Tiger Oscar, Large Common Pleco, Blood Red Parrot, A lot of Black Convicts.
09-19-2013, 06:53 PM #63
Good tankmates would be cardinal, rummynose or lemon tetras to name a few. Also instead of plecos you can have a nice school of corydoras such as adolfoi, sterbai or smudgespot to name a few.
It is also a really good idea to have a spare 29 gallon tank, if fish need to be treated with medicine you can do so without having to treat the healthy fish in the tank also, all you would need to have is an extra heater, air stone & a sponge filter
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09-19-2013, 07:05 PM #64
Sorry, I mean no disrespect, but I tell it as it is.
You won't be successful in your attempt and it will be in vain in the end. I've seen so many people try to patch things up as they go along or try to force something that is not meant to be and it ended up in failure. That is why I told you what I told you in hopes that you would listen and amend so that your old fishes will be happy and the discus will be happy. If you continue doing things the way you want, you're not going to see good results.
It is evident and apparent just by looking at these discus fishes that they aren't happy or healthy. It is still not too late to do what is right for them. They are tough fishes, very hardy, and can live up to a decade if you give them the proper care. If you don't take all the signs that these fishes are showing you as a wake up call to change things, then I don't know what more to say.
When I was abroad for work for the last 3 years, I could've set up many tanks just because and replaced fishes as they die all I want but I didn't do that. I love keeping aquariums and it will not do the fishes or inhabitants of the tanks any justice if I don't give them the proper care. So for 3 years, I can only go to other venues to look at fishes (forums, or aquariums, etc.) because I didn't have time to properly care for the tanks if I did set it up.
Whatever your reasons may be, if you can't provide the right settings for your pets, then don't even bother. Save yourself the effort, time, and money.Think with logic and rationality more than emotion. Act with moderation and consideration. Contemplate ideals and realistic goals and weigh out possibilities and options. Temper not with personal delusions or false hope but learn to accept and move on.
09-19-2013, 07:36 PM #65
Here is the thing... My comments come from the heart of a discus lover. I have worked with them for years now. They can be mixed with schooling fish and even with altums sometimes. However the key factors are this - What is the temperment of all involved? How do the discus take the combination? Do all fish thrive with the needs of water change and temperature?
The most important fish in that tank are discus. They are the most picky and needy in the requirements for clean water and for stable high temps. This is due to many things but more important is their ability to fight infection and parasites.
The issues you currently see on your discus mean you have some issues with health. You should put the sick fish in a quaranteen tank while sick. This goes with all fish. If you restock and reappropriate your tank around species that go with discus you can be successful. If not, you will fight a cycle of futility.
09-19-2013, 08:24 PM #66
Spardas and Sandz have b0th said that y0ur speedy little dani0s and such need t0 be reh0med if y0u want t0 even H0PE f0r a sn0wballs chance in Hades with the discus. This is advice that I w0uld certainly f0ll0w with gust0 (they are b0th kn0wledgeable and trusted members), y0ur discus deserve y0ur greatest eff0rts t0 help them survive. It is very difficult t0 get attached t0 fish then let them g0 (we w0uld ALL agree 0n that, I'm sure) but it really and truly is the best r0ute t0 take IF y0u cann0t acquire an0ther tank f0r the 0ther fish. There are s0me really beautiful that will suit the discus as tankmates perfectly, and many many 0f them will 0nly accentuate the 0verall beauty and W0W fact0r 0f y0ur healthy happy discus. It's a t0ugh call but it is the right 0ne.When in d0ubt read it until it makes sense, then read it again!
09-20-2013, 11:21 AM #67
Hi every one,
I really want to say thank you all from my deep heart, for your great and much appreciate advice's, which make this hobby very easy to understand, no matter the hard work/money i lost.
I read each and every word here in this thread and the poll one, and yes you all right, its my responsibility to chose either to keep the discus and do my homework as it should be, or re-home them. And i by my self accept what most of you advice, to focus first of all to how to make the discus happy and less stress, then start re-home the other fish which they are not suitable to keep with the discus.
So what i will do now is, take out the discus from my 90 gallon tank and keep them separately in other QT, treat and feed them also make them less stress and shy...
And for that i have an idea, i dont know if it will work or not, please help me to decade.
I have 8g tank (check the picture) its for my kids, which has 4 small turtles + 4 snails and it has the kio fish with other pleco which i am re-homing them, its fully cycled but i don't know whats the parameters is, i will check them all today.
So my concern now, should like this tank do the job for my poor discus?
I am ready to buy some more plants to make some hiding placing for the QT. Or any thing else it make the discus much happy and without any stress.
So please help me and continue your favor, and keep your excellent advice's coming and coming to help those discus and make them in good health.
My 8g tank, which i will make it as QT for the discus
09-20-2013, 01:11 PM #68
8 gallon is too small. Try 10 gallons per discusCheck out my 55 Gallon, planted, Philly themed community tank! Rummynose and Cardinals, dwarf cichlids, plecos, shrimps
09-20-2013, 02:36 PM #69
09-20-2013, 05:28 PM #70
Ditto on Filly and Sandz. I wouldn't even worry about the cycle if you can do daily 100% water changes.Think with logic and rationality more than emotion. Act with moderation and consideration. Contemplate ideals and realistic goals and weigh out possibilities and options. Temper not with personal delusions or false hope but learn to accept and move on.