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    Nitrates are looking better, i would do another 50% water change today. If you had prime I would suggest a double dose when adding the water but i'm not familiar with the conditioners you are using.
    Discus are fish that should be in groups of at least 6+. If I remember you now have 4? Keep up with the water changes daily and feed lightly a few times a day to see if they are showing interest in the food (freeze dried blackworms would be great). Discus are very sensitive fish and can take quite some time to feel comfortable in new surroundings with added stress like fast moving danios in the tank it is even more difficult especially when eating as they will out compete the shy discus for food.
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    Hi every one, here is another update.

    Yesterday night and after the 50% water change, i noticed strange thing when i shut down some of the tank light. One of my normal small Pleco fish (4-6 cm) i have 2 of them, was trying to suck the discs skin, and i notice that the discus was very afraid and trying to escape.
    I was succeed in the morning after shooting the below video, to catch one of those Pleco fish, also and by chance i was succeed to catch the Koi fish, i really dont know how...


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    That is one of the reasons I won't keep a pleco with Discus, they are known to do exactly what you saw.... attach themselves to the discus and suck off the slime coat. It does at least appear that the discus is wanting to be fed but the issue with the pleco is not going to go away on its own. I believe I also saw the angel chase the one shy discus away from the others waiting to be fed....
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudiJetson View Post
    Nitrates are looking better, i would do another 50% water change today. If you had prime I would suggest a double dose when adding the water but i'm not familiar with the conditioners you are using.
    Discus are fish that should be in groups of at least 6+. If I remember you now have 4? Keep up with the water changes daily and feed lightly a few times a day to see if they are showing interest in the food (freeze dried blackworms would be great). Discus are very sensitive fish and can take quite some time to feel comfortable in new surroundings with added stress like fast moving danios in the tank it is even more difficult especially when eating as they will out compete the shy discus for food.
    Yes its looking very good than before, i will do another 50% water change today night. I am using usually AquaSafe from tetra before adding new water, but yesterday i used Sera aquatan water conditioner, since the first one was finish from me. So do you think it better if i double the dose today which i change the water?
    Also i was planning to add another 2 discs, to make them total of 6, but i was afraid taking more risk of fish dying..
    I will keep feeding them, freeze stuff and i hope if they will start eating, i am trying to add there food near to where they are hiding, and i can see the food come down front of them, but not eating.


    Quote Originally Posted by JudiJetson View Post
    That is one of the reasons I won't keep a pleco with Discus, they are known to do exactly what you saw.... attach themselves to the discus and suck off the slime coat. It does at least appear that the discus is wanting to be fed but the issue with the pleco is not going to go away on its own. I believe I also saw the angel chase the one shy discus away from the others waiting to be fed....
    I have one more pleco in the tank, i will get rid from it very soon, and yes the angel seems that its disturbing them, i saw here chasing and biting some of them lots of time, i will also get rid of it so i will keep they unstressed and more comfortable.

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    just keep up with the daily 50% water changes and dose the appropriate amount of conditioner to remove chlorine & chloranines.
    very happy to hear you will be removing the plecos and angel fish...the discus will be much happier!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudiJetson View Post
    just keep up with the daily 50% water changes and dose the appropriate amount of conditioner to remove chlorine & chloranines.
    very happy to hear you will be removing the plecos and angel fish...the discus will be much happier!
    Me too really, if i know from the beginning that such those fishes will annoy the discus i will remove them from the first day i brought the discus.
    I just bought seachem's prime, i will use it today after the 50% water change, and i hope that this will make my discus much happy.

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    great, make sure you dose with the amount of prime for the whole tank volume even though you are only removing 50%
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    I have come into this way to late and im sorry for that and any questions I skimmed over that were answered already. After watching the video you would be best suited to remove both discus from the current tank, put them in a 29gal or so bare bottom tank with only a sponge filter. Daily 100% water changes. I would try feeding only a small amnt of flakes soaked in garlic and hold off on lights for the tank.

    The fish are stressed really badly and while 50% water changes are ok, that is considered normal waterchanges for healthy discus. As is sits you are not dealing with healthy discus. They will not take food, they will not be dominant over the faster small fish so you are in need of removing these for best survival and treating them seperate.
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    The latest video shows why angelfish and discus should never be housed together. Jack Wattley has written this many, many times.

    And those smaller fish have top be separated, whether you remove them and leave just the discus, or remove the discus on their own. The smaller fish are stressful; plus with the increased temperature they too are now under stress, and this will only make things even worse for the discus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudiJetson View Post
    great, make sure you dose with the amount of prime for the whole tank volume even though you are only removing 50%
    So what you mean is to remove 50% water, and adding a 100% tank amount of prime. So if i need for example 10 ml prime, for 90 gallon tank, i should use that amount when i am changing the 50% water

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandz View Post
    I have come into this way to late and im sorry for that and any questions I skimmed over that were answered already. After watching the video you would be best suited to remove both discus from the current tank, put them in a 29gal or so bare bottom tank with only a sponge filter. Daily 100% water changes. I would try feeding only a small amnt of flakes soaked in garlic and hold off on lights for the tank.

    The fish are stressed really badly and while 50% water changes are ok, that is considered normal waterchanges for healthy discus. As is sits you are not dealing with healthy discus. They will not take food, they will not be dominant over the faster small fish so you are in need of removing these for best survival and treating them seperate.
    Quote Originally Posted by Byron View Post
    The latest video shows why angelfish and discus should never be housed together. Jack Wattley has written this many, many times.

    And those smaller fish have top be separated, whether you remove them and leave just the discus, or remove the discus on their own. The smaller fish are stressful; plus with the increased temperature they too are now under stress, and this will only make things even worse for the discus.
    So there is no way to keep the discus with other fishes, and all what i did for the last 7-10 days, should not help, and i should stop doing any thing more, trying to help those discus... Either Discus or other fishes, not way for both????? Is that what you are talking? Since i don't want to buy a new 29g tank and keep them on it.

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