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  1. Default Betta in real trouble - need help


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    Hello everyone,

    So I bought my betta fish over 2 weeks ago, and he was absolutely fine, within the time frame of 48 hours, this has happened:
    betta.jpg

    Gabriel was doing so well, when I got him he'd just arrived from Singapore and was brought to the uk, he, accompanied with my rummy nose tetra's were the first fishes to enter my newly cycled aquarium. I did not introduce any of the water the fish came with into my tank. My water parameters were absolutely fine and still are perfect: 0ppm ammo, 0ppm nitrIte, 10ppm nitrAte! My rummy nose tetra's are absolutely fine, one of the rummy's would occasionally nip at the betta ONLY when I turned my aquarium lights on, however, after feeding he stopping nipping at my betta. I am mentioning this to give a better picture, it only happened on a couple of occasions, and he never harmed Gabriel. Gabriel was initially rather picky about food, but this is normal for new fish. I tried flakes, pellets, and bloodworms, he initially rejected all three. Then eventually began eating the flakes (tetra colour). I noticed a slight discolouration on his tail and the beginnings of fin rot. So I performed a massive water change and added api aquarium salt, intitally mixed in tank water (I didn't plonk it straight in). When I woke up, he looked like the image provided. I don't really know what to do. How has it progressed so rapidly when my water parameters and other fish are absolutely fine? I spoke to my lhs, the only advice he offered was that as betta's were bred for colour, they are often not hardy and tend to not like new surroundings and he would offer me half price on a new betta :/ My betta was unbelievably happy, never fazed by anything, and stimulated himself by swimming back and forth in the bubbles created by air stones, he didn't appear to ever be stressed. Is it too progressed to save him?

    P.S when he was first introduced, I noticed his eyes to be slightly cloudy, like he had cataracts, however, his vision was not impaired.

    Thanks

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    It seems to happen fairly often, bettas getting a massive case of [insert disease here] without any apparent reason. I'd tend to agree with your pet store advisor, that uncontrolled breeding has resulted in fish with weak immune systems and various other disorders. I don't think there is much you can do except continue to treat for fin rot and making things as un-stressful as possible for the betta(dimmi aquarium lights, get temperature between 27-30 degrees Celsius, etc)

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    agreed with above. Water changes, water changes, water changes are the best help for fin rot. I'm not sure i'd use the salt but that's up to you.
    He may straighten out. I can't remember how large your tank is but I'd do daily W/C of 50% for a week and see if there's any improvement. If so, keep it up for a while.
    good luck - and good job getting that tank cycled fishless!
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Cheers for replying, it's one of the saddest things iv'e seen. Truly upsetting. But I guess it wasn't meant to be. I'm just throughly shocked with the rate of progression, since I posted, even more of his fins have rotted, at such an alarming pace, I just hope he's not in to much pain. Yeah Iv'e performed a 50% water change, raised the temperature, he's not doing good unfortunately. It's a 60litre, 15 gallon aquarium. Thanks for your response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madagascariensis View Post
    It seems to happen fairly often, bettas getting a massive case of [insert disease here] without any apparent reason. I'd tend to agree with your pet store advisor, that uncontrolled breeding has resulted in fish with weak immune systems and various other disorders. I don't think there is much you can do except continue to treat for fin rot and making things as un-stressful as possible for the betta(dimmi aquarium lights, get temperature between 27-30 degrees Celsius, etc)
    Thank you, I have followed your advice, I don't think it's looking good for him. From an ethical point of view it's sad that uncontrolled breeding is even permitted, there should be better regulations in place. I would rather not keep a pet, than have it suffer in any way. Anyhoo, thank you for replying.

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    Fortunately this does not happen with all bettas. I have had a thriving crown tail betta with no signs of difficulty for some time now. Don't be afraid to try again if the worst happens.
    I think I'd discontinue the salt and just go with water changes. If you can find some betta-fix (like melafix or pimafix) you might try that. it's supposed to help fin rot but there are no guarantees. if you can only find melafix or pimafix, then you could try it but for bettas cut the dosage in half of what's recommended.
    again, I hope he turns around - and he just might under your good care.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    If it's not really looking good, I'd take him out, cut off the infected area, dip a Q tip into meth blue and dab at the area that you just cut off. After that, use stress coat plus and continue with good water maintainence.
    Think with logic and rationality more than emotion. Act with moderation and consideration. Contemplate ideals and realistic goals and weigh out possibilities and options. Temper not with personal delusions or false hope but learn to accept and move on.

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    i'd isolate him from the tetras. they either get along or they don't. i don't think it's working out. contrary to bettas' reputations for always being the bullies, certain bettas are super stressed out by other fish and then they get picked on by them and nipped to high hell. this is probably what happened to your guy here.

    i'd isolate him and give him total water changes every day with a half dose of melafix or a full dose of bettafix to prevent infection and promote regrowth of his fins. feed him whatever was his favorite food until he stopped eating and maybe he'll begin to eat again.
    20gal: 18 neon tetra, ghost shrimp
    5.5gal: 5 glolight tetra
    5.5gal: royal blue/purple butterfly rose tail betta

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    It's funny.... they live most of their lives in a miniscule amount of water.... then once they get a nice home.... they can't handle it. Go figure. My betas typically live a year, then die. But I'm sure it's my fault (lack of aquarium maintenance etc.). I've got SO many tanks and have lost SO many fish, I no longer get upset. It's just part of the game (though I certainly understand how people get attached to their fish.

    All you can do is, buy the fish, do the best you can to provide a good environment... then what ever happens, happens. Hope your fishy pulls through!
    Yup, I got fish!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mith View Post
    My betas typically live a year, then die. But I'm sure it's my fault (lack of aquarium maintenance etc.).
    I wouldn't sweat it. Bettas have pretty short life spans around 3 years. you never know how old a betta (or any fish in most instances) REALLY is when you first get it. I had a bunch of neons all bought at the same time. One of them started to lose color and was clearly exhibiting greying and signs of old age and passed away. All the rest of them are healthy and vibrant as hell. it could be wherever you get your bettas gets older stock from their supplier.
    20gal: 18 neon tetra, ghost shrimp
    5.5gal: 5 glolight tetra
    5.5gal: royal blue/purple butterfly rose tail betta

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