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Thread: Siphoning Help

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    At the risk of sounding like a doofus and this being a DUH question, I need some help. I've always been a proud member of the bucket brigade when doing water changes but recently I've just grown tired of the many trips it takes with a one gallon pitcher and have upgraded my gravel vacuum to a fairly large gravel siphon with a much longer hose. Now here is the rub: I can successfully vacuum the gravel out and just put the hose outside the front door in order for the water to run off into the grass. That so far has been no issue. The issue is when I try to add water to the tank. The tank is located in the living room which places it just barely within reach of the kitchen sink. I have an old faucet head and the adapter piece simply won't work on it. Instead of that, I thought I'd just fill the sink up with the water I needed and reverse siphon it into the tank. I cannot for the life of me get the suction started from the sink to the tank. It just won't work. As I said, this may be a very obvious and silly question, especially for someone that isn't new to the world of tank maintenance, but I'm asking anyway because I can't seem to figure it out.

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    Is your kitchen sink at the same height or lower than the tank? Water wants to travel to the lowest point. If you have two containers with a water-filled tube between them, the water will move from the container with the higher water level to the one with the lower.
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    For a reverse siphon to work, the sink needs to be higher than tank.

    Can you get a longer hose and use some other faucet? Bathroom, laundry tub...you should be able to change out the fitting on the kitchen faucet to one that will take the adaptor...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheamurai View Post
    Can you get a longer hose and use some other faucet? Bathroom, laundry tub...you should be able to change out the fitting on the kitchen faucet to one that will take the adaptor...
    This would be my suggestion too. Take your water changer head to your local hardware store and see if they have something that will work with it on one of your faucets. Good luck!
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    If all else fails y0u can fill the sink, dechl0rinate the water and buy a cheap f0untain pump t0 h00k the h0se t0 and pump it int0 the tank.
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    +1 to sheamurai, that's what I did and I got a nice adaptor that I have had no problems with. Also, my sink is slightly below my tank (we are talking only a few inches though) but the reverse syphon still works for me. Good luck! Kepp us informed :)
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    Cheap fountain pump I think will take a long time as I don't think it will very powerful. Taking vacuum to hardware store and see what they can rig up for you is what I did.
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    Lots of good solutions to the op's problem. In the meantime, though, while the op has time to get added gear or adapters, a temporary, completely low-tech solution is to place a bucket on top of the counter next to the kitchen sink, and fill THAT with dechlor water instead of filling the sink itself. Since the bucket sits on top of the counter, the top of the bucket will be higher than the sink by a foot or more, and perhaps this change in height is enough to get the siphon to work.

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    Personally, if I'm filling a bucket with water anyway, I'd rather just walk it over and dump it in than wait for a siphon to empty it. That being said, the bucket on the counter would be much less straining on the back. I have heard of others making their own pythons using a waterbed draining kit.
    http://www.amazon.com/Waterbed-FILL-...rbed+drain+kit

    Then you just fit your hose to that, hook it to the sink and the pressure of the faucet will push the water up the hose and into the tank. These are designed to work with an actual garden hose though, so you still may have to buy additional fittings at the hardware store. It just has the convenience of the T-shape and the valve at the sink that you can use to change the flow of the water in or out of the tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ijankrom View Post
    Cheap fountain pump I think will take a long time as I don't think it will very powerful. Taking vacuum to hardware store and see what they can rig up for you is what I did.
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