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  1. Default Will the Heat and Salt Method Kill Mystery Snails?


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    I recently spotted ick on some of my fish and am using the heat and salt method to wipe out the infection. Will my mystery snail survive?

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    I heard that Mystery and Apple snails can not tolerate any type of salt. I wouldn't risk it.

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    the combo of heat and salt will be hard on your mystery snails. Particularly the salt. they probably won't survive it
    I'd removed them from the tank temporarily and keep them in another tank. If no other tank, set up a little temporary housing for them and just make sure you feed them. they love zucchini and summer squash btw.
    Good luck
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
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    I can't say f0r p0sitive ab0ut the salt, but the snails like l0wer 80'sF. Y0u d0n't have t0 add salt f0r the ich, just raise the temp up a few degrees each day until it is in the neighb0rh00d 0f 86- 87 F, that al0ne sh0uld fix the ich pretty well. Keep the temp there until the ich isn't n0ticeable anym0re and then f0r an0ther week - 1 1/2 weeks after the disease is n0 l0nger visible.
    When in d0ubt read it until it makes sense, then read it again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longshot View Post
    I can't say f0r p0sitive ab0ut the salt, but the snails like l0wer 80'sF. Y0u d0n't have t0 add salt f0r the ich, just raise the temp up a few degrees each day until it is in the neighb0rh00d 0f 86- 87 F, that al0ne sh0uld fix the ich pretty well. Keep the temp there until the ich isn't n0ticeable anym0re and then f0r an0ther week - 1 1/2 weeks after the disease is n0 l0nger visible.
    + to this but if you already have the salt in your tank, it will be difficult to remove it in time to relieve the stress on the snails. You can't just do a 90 % water change because it will shock your fish to have the water chemistry altered so abruptly. I guess as long as the salt is in the water, I'd leave it but not add any more. And I'd do some partial water changes during the ich treatment and simply not replace the salt. Just make sure your replacement water is the same temp as your tank water which, as LS said, should be 86 - 87. This method WILL work. You just have to have patience and keep that treatment up for that 7 - 10 days after you see the last spot.
    I'd still get the snails out of there asap
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Thanks guys! Fortunately, I am only in the process of raising temperature, so I have NOT added any salt. I just started this process today.

    That said, my current temperature is at 84. From what I see raising the temperature to 87 or so will kill the ich by itself? I'd like to avoid using salt altogether, if possible. Would this hurt my current stock of tetras, listed in my signature? I have not yet suffered any fish loss.

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    Also, how often and what percentage water change should be performed during the process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benhamin View Post
    Thanks guys! Fortunately, I am only in the process of raising temperature, so I have NOT added any salt. I just started this process today.

    Good deal! I'd still worry about the snails in the heat and temporarily remove them if you can.

    That said, my current temperature is at 84. From what I see raising the temperature to 87 or so will kill the ich by itself? I'd like to avoid using salt altogether, if possible. Would this hurt my current stock of tetras, listed in my signature? I have not yet suffered any fish loss.
    While 86F is out of the range for most of your tetra, they should be able to tolerate the higher temps for several days. And you really have little choice. They most likely have ich or will have it so need to be treated too. And yes, the 86 - 87 F temp will kill the ich and destroy any spores (for lack of a better word) that drop into your substrate IF you keep the temp at that level for a minimum 7 day after you see the last white spot.
    Get an air bubbler going if you can. also lower the water level a bit. Both will help with adding back oxygen that will be depleted by the high temps. You should also do water changes every 2 to 3 days during this process, being careful to replace the water with water of the same temp

    I just noticed you have a pleco. Salt is not good for your pleco either so it's fortunate that you didn't use it.

    Good luck
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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    Update: white spots decreasing and only a few more fish seem affected. My large black neon is spot free. The bloodfins seem to have no slots at all. Temperature is 86-89 degrees and I have not lost any fish! I hope this trend keeps up. Did a couple 25% water changes in the last three days. Crossing my fingers!

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    Hope your good luck continues. Keep checking for spots (a magnifying glass helps) and when you're confident they are all gone, keep that heat at 86F for 7 - 10 more days. It should kill the ich forever unless you add new fish without quarantining them as any new fish could bring the ich protozoan with them.
    When you start decreasing your temp, do it slowly over a couple of days. Then do a big water change and a very thorough vac of the substrate to suck up as many of the dead ich egg as possible.
    30 g FW planted:corys, ABNP, blue angel, harleys, zebra danios, nerites & mystery snails
    15 g FW planted: crown tail betta, neons, snails
    90 g FW semi planted: Blood Parrots, severum, Jurupari, EBJD, congos, kribs, clown pleco, snails
    90 Gal Journal: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=93939
    Fishless cycling: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ead.php?t=5640
    Cycling with fish: http://www.aquaticcommunity.com/aqua...ad.php?t=36492

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