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Thread: Pretty Tetra

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    Well I'm glad I waited to place my order with TWS till Monday because today they got in Pretty tetras, Hemigrammus pulcher, also known as Pulcher and Garnet tetra, yeah!! Again I feel like it's an early X-mas.

    This is the only decent video I could find of them, ignore the guys voice, LOL.

    Last edited by steeler58; 08-03-2013 at 03:22 AM.
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    Nice find, Lee! Very pretty/interesting Tetra, indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinVA View Post
    Nice find, Lee! Very pretty/interesting Tetra, indeed.
    Thanks Kevin, this is one of those fish I've waited to have all the years of fish-keeping. I had a chance to buy them years ago in Tahoe, but I was going on vacation and did not want to take the chance. When I returned a week later they were all sold. The owner thought they were Head and tali lights, a nice fish in their own right but not this fish. That was the only time I've ever seen them live.
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    I would have mistaken those for Head and Tail lights. Nice find Steeler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia View Post
    I would have mistaken those for Head and Tail lights. Nice find Steeler!
    They are very closely related from all the text's I've read over the years, but the garnet coloring and black wedge (another name for) set them apart. They also swim in the upper region like HTL.
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    This is indeed a wonderful little tetra, Hemigrammus pulcher. I have seen them three times over about 20 years, and I have a small group now. I don't know why they are not more popular. I believe they are wild caught, but are not difficult to spawn; mine are spawning all the time, though the eggs are quickly eaten by other fish in the display tank. I really should move these to their own tank and attempt to raise some fry.

    They are closely related to the more common--but less attractive in my view--Head &
    Tail light, Hemigrammus ocellifer. Both species tend to swim mid-water, unlike so many of the tetra that prefer the lower 1/2 or 1/3 of the tank. Very peaceful, semi-active (more swimming than say the Rosy clade in Hyphessobrycon), good community fish.

    This is one case where the genus does not tell us all that much about the fish. Hemigrammus like Hyphessobrycon is a "catch-all" genus of species that share certain physiological traits but are certainly not all that closely related genetically.

    The genus Hemigrammus--the name derived from the Greek and meaning "with half line," a reference to the incomplete lateral line--was erected as a subgenus of Poecilurichthys by T.N. Gill in 1858 but has been recognized as a distinct genus since Gery (1977). There are presently about 50 valid species. The classification is deemed incertae sedis [Latin, "of uncertain placement"]. It was formerly considered within the subfamily Tetragonopterinae, but Javonillo et.al. (2010) suggest that this subfamily should be restricted to species within the genus Tetragonopterus since they do not share physiological characteristics with species in other genera such as Hemigrammus.

    None of the diagnostic characteristics presently used to describe species in Hemigrammus, including the incomplete lateral line which gave rise to the genus name, are unique to the genus. Mirande (2009) states that the genus is not monophyletic, a view shared by most ichthyologists working with the characidae. [A monophyletic genus is one wherein the species share a common ancestor, thus linking them together physiologically.] Mirande has proposed several revisions to the family Characidae based upon phylogenetic diagnosis. Some genera have been moved to a new subfamily, while others are now (temporarily) assigned to a specific clade within the family pending further study.

    Hemigrammus has until recently been differentiated from Hyphessobrycon solely on the basis of the fish in Hemigrammus possessing a scaled caudal fin; this however is now known to be unreliable, since it occurs in intermediate conditions (de Lucina, 2003).

    I hope some find all this as fascinating as I do. I like knowing about my fish.

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    Sounds like you are a fellow small fish-characin lover, glad there are more of us. You water system must have soft water, as all the texts point to this as the key to spawning them.

    The next fish to find will be the Belgin flag tetra, a fish that seem to have similer water requirements as you propably know.

    That being said; I would gladly take the Red line or Amapa tetra.
    Last edited by steeler58; 08-04-2013 at 01:16 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steeler1 View Post
    Sounds like you are a fellow small fish-characin lover, glad there are more of us. You water system must have soft water, as all the texts point to this as the key to spawning them.

    The next fish to find will be the Belgin flag tetra, a fish that seem to have similer water requirements as you propably know.

    That being said; I would gladly take the Red line or Amapa tetra.
    I have unfortunately not come across these three locally. Belgian Flag I assume is Hyphessobrycon heterorhabdus, the red line is Hyphessobrycon amapaensis.

    My tap water is forunately (for me anyway) very soft, almost zero GH and KH and basically no TDS. In two tanks that have large swords (Echinodorus bleherae and E. cordifolius) I need to raise the GH in order to provide sufficient calcium and magnesium for these plants, but I only raise the GH to around 5 dGH which is still soft and fine for these fish.

    One comment from your video of these lovely fish, would be to add some floating plants. Ceratopteris cornuta is what I like to use, but Amazon Frogbit (Limnobium laevigatum) works, or even Brazilian Pennywort (Hydrocotyl leucocephala) left floating. The shade will really bring out the colours on these fish. Plus, none of them like overhead light anyway. Win/win all around.

    Byron.

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    Found another video here (seems to be more hits if you search for the Latin name.



    They're interesting. They kind of remind me of lemon tetra.

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    I'm already hooked on this tetra. Thanks for sharing!
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